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    hi, everyone!
    how do you do?
    hope that everything is fine in all the aspects of your life...
    My name is Marina, i am a native Ukrainian citizen, born and brought here and i would like to brief you on Ukraine.
    hi, Paulie, hope you will be reading this message too, because it is basically for you.
    there is nothing really special you should be warned about before visiting Ukraine.
    it is a very friendly and beautiful country!
    everyone who has ever been here at least once will agree to this. people are very friendly and once you have at least one friend who is a permanent citizen of this or that city(esp. if you are going to visit your relatives) be sure that your lunch or dinner is guaranteed. this is the nature of our ukrainian people, we just can't see anyone starving or having nowhere to go to eat, whatsoever...
    but make sure that (f you have this kind of invitations) you bring something with you as a small gift for the hostess or host
    (even a bar of chocolate would do or a bouqet of flowers), you would be treated as a personal friend of the family. we are not greedy. it would be just a sign of your good manners.
    take different kind of clothes: casual and formal and a lot of shoes, as there is transport problem here, so a lot of time you will have to walk.
    then it depends on which city you are going to visit and what is the purpose of your visit: study, exhibition, relatives, business...for all these occasions there is different way of dressing and various accessories you have to take with you. it all depends...but yes there is something common that you always take to the trips, just take your travel kit with you with all the medicines you like and a bag of favourite snacks, and magazines or newspapers..
    don't think that you are going to see some cave people that don't know anything
    and no way you should think that we have bears walking around the streets, it is a modern country, highly developed and highly priced,
    so take a lot of fast (canned)food with you (like tuna fish or preserved sausages), anything that might help you during your adaptation to prices and food and water, take some drinking water as weel, it might help for the first time.
    when you go to currency exhange make sure that you check a couple of them before
    you finally change your "green" ones to our
    "coloured"ones, (different "exchanges"- different rates) and make sure to get coins change with you at all the times (our WCs are paid). weather can be quite warm this time, but again it depends upon the city, it could be colder in Kiev and warmer in Kherson, so make sure to have a sweater and a pair of light trousers and a thin shirt.
    if you need any more comments, please feel free to contact me on
    marina_555@hotmail.com
    or
    marina_555@ukraine.com

    you would be mostly welcome.
    thanks a lot for reading this.
    bye-bye.
    Regards, Marina

    Marina

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    Hi Marine! Nice day really? You know, first of all, I am really sorry about Dynamo Kiev defeating in the starting game of the League champions. May be you are not soccer fun but according to your words in this message i can say that you love your country. I do not remember where are you from it may be Odessa, or Nokolayev.

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    • #3
      Dear All,
      how are you? how is your day?
      i would like to apologize for giving you wrong address on ukraine.com
      my address on this link is m.555@ukraine.com
      sorry for any inconvinience caused.
      regards, marina
      Marina

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      • #4
        Hi Marina!

        I would like to know a bit more about you, if you don't mind. I don't know which part of Ukraine you are from. If you are from Odessa it would be fantastic as I am looking for some people I lost contact with years ago.
        Even if you are not from Odessa please reply to me. You can wright me to my email- freakbear@hotmail.com
        Regards
        A.V.


        [This message has been edited by admin (edited 04 April 2000).]

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        • #5
          Thanks for the info! My husband and I are planning to adopt a child from Ukraine and we no nothing about the country. Any other information you have would be wonderful!

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          • #6
            Dear Cheraboo,
            thank you for your comments. i am glad if you find this information about Ukraine helpful.
            i am sorry to say that i don't know much about the adoption of children for the foreigners. what i do know is what our authourities require for my friends living abroad (ukrainian wife and foreign husband, the wife has a baby from the first marriage).
            they need a salary and a health certificate of the "new" husband, the certificate of good living conditions, the cert-te that he has no more children or other wife (all should be approved by the consulates of both countries), and the cert-te from the first husband that he doesn't mind for his child to be adopted.
            this is the only thing that i know about this. i think that for you it will be different.
            anyway i hope i gave you some idea. i think you should contact our embassy to find out more details.
            please let me know if you need some more information.
            best regards,
            marina
            Marina

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            • #7
              Dear Marina
              I meant to write this a few days ago, but never had the chance. I find your information to be very good. I myself am Ukrainian... living in Canada. I was adopted by a family in Canada but they had come from the Ukraine (Lviv and Ternopol). I love coming here to this site to talk to other ukrainians especially if they are in the Ukraine. Anyways nice to talk to you..

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              • #8
                dear Marusia,
                thank you very much for your nice comments.
                you have such a lovely pure ukrainian name!!!

                nice writing to you, hoping to see you again (on this channel).
                regards, Marina

                [This message has been edited by admin (edited 04 April 2000).]
                Marina

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                • #9
                  Dear, Marina!
                  I think that you don't know me.But it is not so important!You know, i have a friend and his name is Crazyman. He said that he knew you! He is very sick now and has to lie in the hospital! He wanted me to congratulate you with your well job on this site ( www.ukraine.com)! I understand that he was right. Looking at your topics i can say that you are very intelligent (hardworking) woman, or girl. Are you a girl or a woman??!! And how old are you? If you don't want to tell me that information you'll be able not to do it!
                  Well what else? I think that it'll.Oh, one more thing! My e-mail is <ogiyenko@mail.ru>
                  I am 16. I was born in Nikolayev (it is the south part of the Ukraine)


                  Best regards, Sasha!

                  P.S. I wish you good results in Your Internet Development!
                  My real name is Alexander Ogiyenko!
                  E-mail - <ogiyenko@mail.ru>

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                  • #10
                    Hi Marine1 How are you?
                    My real name is Alexander Ogiyenko!
                    E-mail - <ogiyenko@mail.ru>

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                    • #11
                      Dear Marina!
                      I'm new in this forum.
                      I'm from Denmark, but I've spend many summers in Ukraine I've everything from Ismail to Zaporoshe, and I do not think that your letter of introduction is completely fitting. It is true that many people are very hospitable. I've been invited to lots of drinkingsessions dinners weddings and birthdays. But if you are not a friend but a stranger you will be pushed in the tram, people will jump you in shoplines, and bureaucrats will ignore you. Your aggresive police will try and get money of you or beat you if you are drunk.
                      Poverty is everywhere and the mafia is not to delicate to take money of old people selling apples at streetmarkets. Begging streetkids and alcoholics are everywhere in city-centres, while racketeers and corrupt government-officials and businessmen roam around in Mercedes, and they still will because Kuchma who is responsible for the lawless conditions cheated his way into a re-election. With his appointed governors he rules the country with an ironfist. There are no significant opposition press left, it has ceased to be a democracy. But the kindness of the people and the intensity of life makes it worthwhile, and thats why I love Ukraine

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                      • #12
                        Dear Zhenya and Lasserbosch especially,
                        I believe you did not really understand the message general idea: to provide the general information as what to wear, what to take, how to behave...
                        Nobody was asking that time when i wrote it in September about mafia and povetry and police...I have never had a single problem with police whether at home or abroad so why should i say that they are hostile and beating everyone??? Don't get drunk, don't drive drunk...
                        As for the povetry: some of those old people selling apples in the streets or selling sunflower seeds (I DON'T SAY ALL OF THEM, A LOT OF THEM)...you know they do this all their life long acting poor and when they die police or relatives (if they have any) will find heaps of money hidden everywhere in their flats: matraces, TVs, cupboards, kettles, sofas...
                        as for the children begging in the streets: i will not say that we don't have such children. But far from all of them are really poor: some of them are from very respectable families: it is just their way of getting the pocket money!!! I know how i must sound to so many of you...But I know what I am saying!!!
                        even in our place there are so many of them, and so many of them that i know belong to good and not at all poor families!!!
                        So before making judgement you should know the background...
                        As we say: YOU MEET PEOPLE BY THE WAY THEY DRESS AND YOU SEE THEM OFF BY THE WAY THEY THINK: VSTRECHAYUT PO ODEZHKE, A PROVOZHAYUT PO UMU.
                        Are there less alcoholics in some other countries???.....
                        As for the mafia...well, yes it is there...but it has started not a few years back when Kuchma came...it has started a very long time ago, but now it has become tooooo open, because nobody really cares...
                        and those who really do care are being shot dead...it has always been there... and it is not only in Ukraine...
                        Regards,
                        I believe that it is just the stereotype of thinking of so many foreigners...
                        Marina

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                        • #13
                          Hello, Marina.
                          Why does you message start as "Dear Zhenya..." if you answered lasseborch's message. By the way I agree with that guy he is very cool. I agree with you too, but you can't only say the good sides of the story, you have to tell the whole truth. And if you tell about poverty and other bad stuff that doesn't mean that you don't love Ukraine. And me and Lasseborch adore this country, but you just can't go blind and say that everything is perfect. That's the power of being honest. Yes what you said was correct, but you can't disagree with lasseborch. And believe me world stereotype of Ukraine is much worse than you think.
                          Sheff

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                          • #14
                            Zhenya,

                            Thank you for critics! My comments below:

                            I did not say it (I remind you once again) because nobody was asking about the political and economical situation in Ukraine, My Dear Friend...
                            This kind of information they will get from CNN, BBC, etc...If they are interested in this info only they will not write to Ukrainian channel. But if they do, it means they are interested to know what ukrainian people think and know about their country...
                            People ask what is the most important thing to have, to wear, to know...
                            I have been staying abroad for so many years and visiting different countries and Ukraine a couple of times per year...I do know what people usually want to know when they are travelling: weather, clothes, food, money exchange rate, prices...
                            Political and economical situation always comes the last in mind and only if you are going there for more than a year!
                            People are more worried if it is peaceful in the country you are going to...
                            I wrote it based on my experience of a Ukrainian citizen, a common person and a traveller.
                            I think that I did it right...I did not lie to anybody about anything and I do get a confirmation to the work I have done: letters from different people who agree with me and very thankful for this information...
                            In general, why don't you right some very useful information about Ukraine?!
                            We will discuss your topic...
                            It is easy to criticize somebody's work, instead of offering something of your own...
                            There is a special board here "Politics"
                            for political and economical issues of Ukraine. If somebody is really interested in this they do write topics over there: why don't you check?

                            Regards,

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                            Marina
                            Marina

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                            • #15
                              Hello, Marina.
                              I am very sorry for criticizing your work. I didn't mean to do this, i just wanted to contribute my point of view to this topic. And the topic becomes kind of old, so you right I ought to post the new one.
                              By the way I did it but you didn't discuss it. What's up?
                              Bye-bye.
                              Sheff

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