Can we talk?

[B_Ungaro]

Brother Tyssian,

What do you want blood? How many times do I have to tell you that the Science of Evolution is not COMPLETE. However, we know who did all the begetting to whom and when. There was a lot of begetting going on.

It is not about winning this debate. It's about getting some truth in on the table. If I wanted to be victorious I would have interfered with my children getting introduced to Christianity. I figured that education will get them back on the right track. I may turn out to be right yet.

I am on this board to counter all the wild eyed, foaming at the mouth, crusading christians who periodically come around
conducting their modern day inquisitions.

Usually they make me re-invent the wheel, thinking that I would probably give up. No deal.

Think about this. You reject the Big Bang and Evolution because the science is not totally complete. Yet you believe in something that has no science, evidence, only contradictions. That's a good one.

Regarding the "y" chromosome, thre are volumes and volumes of stuff on the internet and in the library.

For your pleasure, I am reconstructing the chain from which we evolved trough various species including the apes. 96% of the DNA similarity can not be wrong. I am up to the large mouth bass in the chain. Wonderful critters.

Get serious, will you.

Bill

[tyssian]

Allo sister B.,

If you are not attempting to win anything then why do you argue. No matter how you define the outcome it is still an attempt to win. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!

Tyssian

[B_Ungaro]

Tyssian,

I report the truth. Yes , we did evolve from APES. We are 96% percent similar to them in our DNA profile. Pretty convincing, you have to admit.

What else do you want to know?

Bill

[tyssian]

Sister B.,

Evolution is not a true science. You see it requires you to have a ton of faith which true science does not recognize. I asked my questions to show you this because until you get past those questions you are putting alot of faith in guess-work. I no longer say, but may once have said, that I can prove creation. My point in this debate is to show that you cannot do this with evolution either. You act as if because you say science backs up evolution then there is no doubt about it. I am merely trying to get you to show some actual PROOF which you have still failed to do. Just because we share DNA with another species does not do this. Can't you get this through your thick neanderthal skull.


If its about getting truth on the table then do that not just what you deem to be truth. For instance; your "Jesus story" concerning the Roman soldier. This is not verified truth. As I said your guys said one thing and my guys said another. The people you choose to believe are no more credible than those that I choose to believe. If your going to say it as truth you had better be able to make it stick.


You are the only one who appears rabid. Most of the Christians are very civil (excluding myself, hehe) and you come in attacking them acting as if they are stupid for there beliefs when you can give them no more concrete beliefs than they already have.Because evolution just sounds scientific doesn't make it so. You are an inadequate representative of the evolutionary camp.


The questions I have asked are valid and if evolution is so true then they should be easily answered, but I am going to tell you that your not going to answer them and fit them within the scope of evolution. You can't just sweep them under the table and pretend that everything in this world supports your BELIEFS.


I reject your theories because they do not make sense and I have my own personal experiences to go on. I cannot accept that all the order in the world came from chaos. I cannot accept something that violates SCIENTIFIC LAWS. I cannot accept something that has to change its stripes all the time in order to meet challenges from now educated Christians. This has happened my friend. What contradictions do you speak of in my faith that are relevant to belief.


Regarding the "Y" chromosome; why don't you give me book references on this subject so I can look at it. Cite something.


I hope you finish this chain so I can see it too. And 96% can be wrong because first of all it doesn't tell me how this evolution happened just because and second of all its not 100%.


I am dead serious.


Tyssian

[tyssian]

Originally posted by B_Ungaro
Tyssian,

I report the truth. Yes , we did evolve from APES. We are 96% percent similar to them in our DNA profile. Pretty convincing, you have to admit.

What else do you want to know?

Bill

Just because big bill ungaro says it then its the truth. It is still a theory!!!!!!!!!! I don't care how you slice it, it is still a theory!!!!! So there you go again sporting an unproven untruth as if it were truth. You are a hypocrite.

Tyssian

[B_Ungaro]

Tyssian,

If it is not the Big Bang and Evolution, and if it's not Creation, what in he hell is it? You must think that you were hatched.

OK, "Y" Chromosomes. Scientific American had a very detailed article in it's November issue last year. The University of Arizona has on the webb volumes and volumes of info on it. They conducted extensive research on the natives of Siberia. Libraries are full of info on DNA.
You just going to ave to read some of this stuff. I told you all about it, but you don't believe me.

I was shocked to hear that you are not too sure about creation. We are making progress. Slow, but progress anyway.

Good Luck,

Bill

[tyssian]

It is not that I am unsure about creation its just that I can admit that it cannot be proven. It is more acceptable, believable, and falls in line more so with ALREADY PROVEN science than the alternative. I am VERY sure of what I believe, I am just aware of my boundaries as you should be.

Tyssian