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Old 14th November 2001, 18:01
tyssian tyssian is offline
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I am just wondering why I attempt to address most all of B.'s points, that are relevant, yet he is the one who never even attempts to answer the questions that I pose (i.e. intermediary fossils).



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Old 14th November 2001, 19:18
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Tyssian, Tyssian,

You try so hard. Yet with each posting you dig yourself a deeper and deeper whole.

Again, please note that the science on evolution is not complete, but it is very close to being complete. The emergence of the human species through the various stages is documented. Your DNA is 97 percent similar to various families of the APE species. More and more scientist are users of the science of evolution. When I started following this topic the split was 55% to 45% in favor of evolution. Today it 70% to 30%. Evolution is not a belief, it is a theory with scientific validity.

Creation is a belief based on the Bible. Unfortunately the same Bible contradicts the same belief. Genesis gives the chronology of creation. On day one God did this, on day two God did that. The creation of the Human species came about through Adam and Eve. Very detailed.

However, the Bible also talks of this person begetting that person, that person begetting another person. DUH, who are these people doing all the begetting. DUH, where did they come from. How did we get to these other people. Before ADAM and EVE there were nobody. Hello, Hello.

One other thing. The "Y" chromosome tells the geneology of a person since the development of the human species. We are not from a single source, ie ADAM. I know that you folks hate science, but you just have to deal with it.

What do you think of those apples?

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Old 14th November 2001, 21:37
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Originally posted by B_Ungaro
Tyssian, Tyssian,

You try so hard. Yet with each posting you dig yourself a deeper and deeper whole.

Again, please note that the science on evolution is not complete, but it is very close to being complete. The emergence of the human species through the various stages is documented. Your DNA is 97 percent similar to various families of the APE species. More and more scientist are users of the science of evolution. When I started following this topic the split was 55% to 45% in favor of evolution. Today it 70% to 30%. Evolution is not a belief, it is a theory with scientific validity.

Creation is a belief based on the Bible. Unfortunately the same Bible contradicts the same belief. Genesis gives the chronology of creation. On day one God did this, on day two God did that. The creation of the Human species came about through Adam and Eve. Very detailed.

However, the Bible also talks of this person begetting that person, that person begetting another person. DUH, who are these people doing all the begetting. DUH, where did they come from. How did we get to these other people. Before ADAM and EVE there were nobody. Hello, Hello.

One other thing. The "Y" chromosome tells the geneology of a person since the development of the human species. We are not from a single source, ie ADAM. I know that you folks hate science, but you just have to deal with it.

What do you think of those apples?

Bill
If I was a believer in evolution, after reading this mealy mouth garbledy goop, I'd go to a Baptist Church, get down on my knees and beg Jesus to save me.
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Old 14th November 2001, 21:39
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[quote]Originally posted by B_Ungaro
[b]Tyssian, Tyssian,

You try so hard. Yet with each posting you dig yourself a deeper and deeper whole.

QUOTE]

Bill, its "hole", not "whole". Some of us have evolved further than others.
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Old 15th November 2001, 01:31
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Rickster,

I stand corrected. Unfortunately there is no medication that is available for correcting weakness in spelling.

Fortunately for you, Viatmin E is very effective against
against short memory spans. It is also effective against incoherence. Double up.

Please help explain your thoughts in your last posting prior to the current one.

Your friend,

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Old 15th November 2001, 14:46
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Allo B.,

You have this ability to percieve things that no one else could possibly see. For instance, I have been countering all of your relevant points and, well, basically kicking your tail, yet you feel some sense of victory.


Ohh you are very bold in making a completely unfounded statement that evolution is nearly complete. Correction, it is nowhere near complete. You need to give some support to this moronic statement. Are you speaking of Australiopithecene (however you spell it). First off there are scientist who agree that the bone structure of this animal could in no way develop into man. The idea that we are from this creature is without hard or concrete basis. Then you still have the problem of the missing link. Still your problem. The similarities in our DNA and that of apes is old news bubb. This by itself or coupled with your weak evolutionary evidence still does not prove anything. Also with this close of a similarity you must be suggesting that we evolved directly from these various ape families. And who cares what the ratio of evolutionists and creationists is. This is a result of the evolutionists HIJACKING the education system. You have yet to convince me of evolution's scientific validity.



I will address your Bible attacks in a later post as I have little time right now.



Concerning the "Y" chromosome, please document our geneology back to its beginnings, please. I want to see you do it, OK. At least give me a source so I can see this for myself.

Tyssian

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Old 15th November 2001, 19:30
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Allo B.,
Let's talk.


From B.:
However, the Bible also talks of this person begetting that person, that person begetting another person. DUH, who are these people doing all the begetting. DUH, where did they come from. How did we get to these other people. Before ADAM and EVE there were nobody. Hello, Hello.



From Tyssian:
I will be quite honest and say that, while I have my own personal ideas, the Bible is vague in this area, so I DON'T KNOW with any degree of certainty. At least I can admit this unlike you B. Don't hop on your high horse yet. Can you satisfactorily account for some gaps in evolution. I would like to know how the gap from lifeless to life was bridged (I know what you will say here)and how the gap from plant to animal was bridged? These are two that I know you can answer, I just don't believe you can do it satisfactorily. Now to a couple of tougher questions. How about my intermediary fossils? Have you found any yet? I mean, there should be millions of them given the length of time that evolution has been going on. Why are there no intermediary species today? What did evolution take a coffee break around the time that we figured it out? You are a fan of the "big bang". Tell me why the geological make-up of our planet differs so much from that of the other planets in our system. Our own Moon differs geologically. You would think, since our solar system is from the same debris in the "bang", that our rocks would be the same. Since evolution has so much probability why don't you tell me what the probability for life to just happen is. These are some questions that I would like you to answer. I have attempted to and have answered your questions now you answer mine. Don't come back with another question for me and totally ignore these questions. I will take that for your inability to compete.

Tyssian

P.S.Your apples were delicious.
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