Salvation By Grace

[Deborah_R]

You know I am only reading this because you suggest it I know there is a purpose and I will do my best to understand it. The only thing that's annoying is putting all this nonsense into my head, it is a real waist of my mind, but I'll stick to it, how much worse???

[Nonson]

Originally posted by Deborah_R
"With regret I turn from this fascinating subject to the question I am bound to treat in particular. Was such a person as Saul-Paul ever known to Jewish tradition or to the Jewish literary art ? My readers have anticipated the negative answer. And there the question is at an end."

He might not have been known to the world of literary at, but I am sure he was know to Christian world. Why don't we get into the subject if apostles existed at all?

On the other hand I will not buy the book. I don't like it.

Deborah,

Here we are just barely begun in discussing those things of which you wished to have an understanding and here you are getting terribly upset. The truths revealled up to now have been put to you in a gentlemanly fashion. There has been no attempt whatsoever to abuse you. It is only an inquiry into the truth or lie of the Judaic-Christian teachings that we are engaged in here. You can withdraw at any time.

Lastly, there is no reliable proof that there ever was a Christian community during the alledged time of this Saul of Tarsus. On the other hand, there is much proof that there was not.


Nonson

[Deborah_R]

Please see above, we replied at the same time, my post is applicable to both posts.

I will try not to be upset.

[Nonson]

Originally posted by Deborah_R
You know I am only reading this because you suggest it I know there is a purpose and I will do my best to understand it. The only thing that's annoying is putting all this nonsense into my head, it is a real waist of my mind, but I'll stick to it, how much worse???

Deborah,

What is being presented to you is in no way nonsense. It can all be backed up with near indisputable fact, and in many instances it is beyond being disputed. There is no interest on my part in wasting anyone's time in matters as critically important as these. For in far too many cases the things which we are now discussing are and have been matters of life and death for literally billions of people. Even in this age that which we now talk about could well be the deadly catalyst for the world in a savage turmoil. This is not something to be takened lightly, or as something to be wave aside by an uncaring mind.

How much worse can it get? How much blood can you shed and how much pain can you withstand?

It ought to be obvious to you that I have been showing mercy to those who wished to argue religion with me. With many of them I've played along just to see where they might lead me. But with some I have used both the club and sword of truth. However, in using these tools of destruction I still believe it best to proceed slowly.


Nonson

[Deborah_R]

OK, I will not take it lightly.

It will have to be slow because I will not have as much time starting next week, so let's get as much dome as possible this weekend, after that I will have to go slower, sorry...

[Nonson]

Originally posted by Deborah_R
OK, I will not take it lightly.

It will have to be slow because I will not have as much time starting next week, so let's get as much dome as possible this weekend, after that I will have to go slower, sorry...

Deborah,

Little progress is to be had till you are ready to acknowledge that Saul/Paul and the Pauline Doctrine is as I have asserted a vast and age-old plot to hold the people in subjection. Go and carefully read the Pauline Doctrine (Epistle to the Romans) and see just how many statements in it conflict with your beliefs as a woman and as a human being with definite sets of ethics and morals. It is doubtful you'll get half way through it before you start cursing its author. Afterwards, I will once more inquire of you if this is something upon which you desire to base your faith and belief in God. My bet is that it is not.


Nonson

[Deborah_R]

I bet you're wrong. Are there particular chapters you want me to read or all of the Romans?