Women's Lib' the Muslim way

[Irinka]

Islam has no room here Kaz.
Please leave this forum alone, you whining and Islamic "truth" is not welcome here.

[kazanova3]

hi irenka do u own this board ( u must not be amoderator)since u have some discremination ... i don't talk about islam till your best friend nonson raised up a questions..


irenka what about if iam ukrainian muslim ? are u going to fired me from this board also .. in this case . where can i have the freedom of speech??? . stop discremination language ..pls.

- irenka with my respect to u , try to be polite.


- did u find strong ,abuse ,insult language in my posts.

-to win a debate or not is not so important to me . what is the important to me is to give u the correct information.

-respecting the members and getting some information about the others religion,culture and traditions improve my knowledge about others nations.(GOD created us to worship him and to know each others).


-it doesn't mean that if we disagree on somthing we had to fired each others.no irenka we are living on the knowledge era. we are human and we had to help each others.instead of insulting or abusing .

- i think that i am talking to older people on this fourm ,and they are comming from discremenation era & thought cos they are old.and maybe thier mind not opened to discuse many things.that effects our daily life now adays such as religion.?

-irenka many times i noticed that u are using strong language towards me , and stay as alawyer for nonson,,,.why?

- hate what ever u like to hate and love what ever u like to love but one day u will passaway and then u will see the truth in front of ur eyes.



------- if ISLAM has no ROOM here ....SO REMOVE RELIGION FOURM FROM THIS BOARD ... (be wise in ur words)
best regards.

[Edited by kazanova3 on 22nd June 2001 at 08:30]

[JetSet]

Kaz, I have watched these posts that have gone on between various members regarding the Islamic faith. I can side with you on that a lot of prejudical and hateful posts have been made in your direction. No human being deserves this sort of discrimination no matter what religious faction they belong to.

In direct response to your last post, you told Irinka to "try to be polite". I am sorry to say that over the last month or however this has been going on, she has been polite to you, yet you are very infrequently polite to her.

I am convinced that despite noble attempts, you won't be able to make constructive conversation about Islam here through no fault of your own. A lot of people here are far too close minded to discuss or accept discussing Islam. This has gone on for a long time, and by looking at the most recent posts, the dialog has deteriorated to the point where Islam is no longer being discussed, and only personal attacks are being made by both you and other members.

In my books, if you wish to discuss topics that are Ukrainian in nature, and in a positive manner, you are welcome here.

The reason I am righting this, is because I am tired to watch this go on on these boards. I think you should remain at Ukraine.com, but please stop discussing Islam based issues with certain memebers, in a negative manner.

Thanks.

[kazanova3]

before 2 or 3 months ago they asked me to stop talking about islam.

so i stoped .. but nonson start talking then i had to answer him.. is this a wrong ?? even if we going to correct the wrong information about or selfs WE ARE GULTY.EXTRIMST .?.

anyway according to discrimination on this board ,i start thinkig to leave ..... ... i wounder from people claiming democracy and using discrimination at the same time.


----------------- this is the bad face of democracy in the west or in the east---------- OR since we are youth so we are not allowed to talk...and discuse any with older people having closed minds.


best regards kaz.

[NZman]

Jetty how do, over yous birthday hangover

The situation is this...

The Muslims come on to all the VCIs they post about their beliefs and say that their guide book is truth and that Muslims do no wrong. (paraphrasin' I knows). So yous asks them a question.

I is askin' question about wot they is sayin' I gets one of these responses ...

NZman is Nonson, don't speak to him

NZman Is a Jew

NZman Hates Muslims ignore him

NZman Is a Serb, Serbs are Murderin' B*****Ds

NZman is a product of the corrupt Islamaphobic western media.

NZman Should Judge Islam on it's scripture not it's people -//- repeat.

NZman Is a hate monger.

NZman Is an alcoholic.

Oh yes and don't forget they called me bird a whore.

Now I is seein' questionin' as the best was of movin' forward, they is seein' it as an insult to Islam & I should be gagged.

Jetty I has asked these question & only received insults or attempts to have me cleansed from boards.

WHY if is Islam is so lovin' are Islamic countries the ones with the worst human rights

WHY did the Sikhs come into existence

WHY if the guide book says you are not to slot women, children & the unarmed do Muslims persist in do this

WHY do Muslims insult western democracy claiming they are evil and need to be turned into Islamic states, do they flock to them when there is trouble in their country If England, Germany France etc were so bad, why did the Kosovan flock to these countries when they could have easily buggered off to Iran etc and lived in a wonderful Islamic state

WHY do Muslims refuse to accept responsibility for their actions i.e. Honor Killin's

WHY do Islamic countries refuse to respect other nations cultures

WHY if not respectin' other peoples cultures do Muslims expect respect in non-Islamic countries and cry like babies when countries like France enforce their secular states on to all people

WHY do Muslims feel they have the right to protest in the street that the leaders of a western democracy are Satan and that all who voted for them are in league with the devil, whilst at the same time cryin' like babies about Islamaphobia when the words Human Rights in Islamic States are mentioned

WHY Can no Muslim tell me why Iran is a better country to live in than Sweden

These are the question I want answers to & all I get are the stock responses.

Finally Jetty, your a Slav I assume, have a read of the post that support the destruction of Macedonia & the growth of the Islamic states by force in a territory that is Slavic.

Love the NZman

p.s Nova3 dude still int answered the questions on Honor Killin's

[kazanova3]

honor killing is not allowed in our religion , why u don't read my answer to u before.

-i told u that the true follower of islam don't kill others. even at a war our religion don't allowed us to kill ,older people ,women,childrens and unarmed people.. did u got the answers.


- many people claiming that they are followers of islam but they are far away from islam rules...



-don't stuck the acts of those whom not appling islam in thier life to the religion.. or to the scripture...

every where in this world u find torrest extrimst . BUT it is not belonge to the RELIGION.

-why u inseast that our religion guide us to kill the people or not to respect the women.. pls. read about islam as a religion and see if it is tilling to kill or tilling to respect others??

nzman u don't know about religions so why u don't see the following site then give me ur point of view.

http://www.it-is-truth.org

http://www.beconvinced.com

http://www.alharamain.org



FINNALY NZMAN WHY ISRAELI SOLDGERS KILL CHILDRENS AND UN ARMED PALASTINE??? WITH THIER GUNS .and just remember the bosnia and ur people?? pls. give me an answer.

best regards.

[Edited by kazanova3 on 22nd June 2001 at 12:55]

[NZman]

Nova3 Dude, yet another stock response.

So dude let me start off with the Israel point. Is I ever defendin' Israel Is I ever sayin' that Israel is well cool to slot Muslims I is thinkin' not.

Why is they slottin' Palestinians, you tell me. At the same time can you justify the suicide bombers that is slottin' women, children & the unarmed

Tell me why Islamic states offer the lowest level of human rights in the world

Tell me why despite yous protestations Muslims is commitin' acts of bestial nature and claimin' it is part of yous guide book

Tell me why yous movement Islam in the City is preachin' against the western democracies, but at the same time enjoys the freedom these democracy offer

Tell me why if western democracies are so bad why did so many east European Muslims come to South Auckland and not go and live in Iran

Tell me why Muslims never condemn the actions of other Muslims they just claim its A: Jewish owned western media lies. or B: Why do Serbs (add any of these... Jews, Russians, NATO, Greeks, Slavs, Christians, the list is endless) kill Muslims


Tell me why Muslims don't respect the culture of others, but expect respect of there culture

Tell me why yous never answered the questions I asked, partic' the ones I posted earlier today.

Love the NZman