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Old 28th December 2000, 17:03
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Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

- Matthew 10:28

... all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

- Matthew 26:52



For wrath killeth the foolish man...

- Job 5:2

... let not the sun go down on your wrath.

- Ephesians 4:26



And no man hath ascended up to heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

- John 3:13

... and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

- 2 Kings 2:11



If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

- John 5:31

I am one that bear witness of myself...

- John 8:18

[Jesus Christ was the speaker in both of these quotes]



A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children...

- Proverbs 13:22

Sell that ye have and give alms...

- Luke 12:33



Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord... Wealth and riches shall be in his house...

- Psalms 112:1-3

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

- Matthew 19:24



I and my father are one.

- John 10:30

... I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

- John 14:28

[Jesus Christ was the speaker in both of these quotes]



Thou shalt not kill

- Exodus 20:13

Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side... and slay every man his brother...

- Exodus 32:27



Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.

- Exodus 20:8

The new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with: it is iniquity.

- Isaih 3:22



Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven... earth... [or] water.

- Leviticus 26:11

And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them.

- Exodus 25:18



For by grace are ye saved through faith... not of works.

- Ephesians 2:8-9

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

- James 2:24



God is not a man, that he should lie: neither the son of man, that he should repent.

- Numbers 23:19

And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

- Exodus 32:14



... the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and come forth...

- John 5:28-29

As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more.

- Job 7:9



... thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

- Exodus 21:23-25

... resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

- Matthew 5:39



Honor thy father and mother.

- Exodus 20:12

If any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, and wife, and children, and bretheren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

- Luke 14:26



Lay not up for yourself treasures upon the earth...

- Matthew 6:19

In the house of the righteous is much treasure...

- Proverbs 15:6



I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

- Genesis 32:30

No man hath seen God at any time.

- John 1:18



The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.

- Ezekiel 18:20

... I the lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

- Exodus 20:5



Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

- Proverbs 3:13

For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

- Ecclesiastes 1:18



The Lord is good to all.

- Psalm 145:6

I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things.

- Isaiah 45:7



Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.

- Matthew 5:22

[Jesus said] Ye fools and blind.

- Matthew 23:17



For all have sinned.

- Romans 3:23

There was a man... whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright.

- Job 1:1



Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to regin.

- 2 Kings 8:26

Fourty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.

- 2 Chronicles 22:2



If a man vow a vow unto the Lord or swear an oath... he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.

- Numbers 30:2

But I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven... nor by earth.

- Matthew 5:34-35



... the earth abideth forever.

- Ecclesiastes 1:4

... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

- 2 Peter 3:10



... for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever.

- Jeremiah 3:12

Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever.

- Jeremiah 17:4



... God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.

- James 1:13

And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham.

- Genesis 22:1



And God saw everything that he made, and behold it was very good.

- Genesis 1:31

And it repented the Lord that he had made man on earth, and it grieved him at his heart

- Genesis 6:6



For now have I chosen and sanctified this house that my name be there forever; and mine eyes and my heart shall be there perpetually.

- II Corinthians 7:16

Howbeit the most high dwelleth not in temples made with hands.

- Acts 7:48



[God dwells] in the light which no man can approach unto.

- I Timothy 6:16

The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.

- I Kings 8:12



And the Lord called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid.

- Genesis 3:9,10

Ye hath neither heard his voice, at any time, nor seen his shape.

- John 5:37



Then went up Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. And they saw the God of Israel... They saw God, and did eat and drink.

- Exodus 24: 9-11

Whom no man hath seen nor can see.

- I Timothy 6:16



With God all things are possible.

- Matthew 29:26

And the Lord was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

- Judges 1:19



God is not the author of confusion.

- I Corinthians 24:33

Out of the mouth of the most high proceedeth not evil and good?

- Lamantations 3:38



Those that seek me early shall find me.

- Proverbs 8:17

Then shall they call upon me but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but shall not find me.

- Proverbs 1:28



On the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of attonement; it shall be a holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls and offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.

- Leviticus 23:27

For I spake not unto your fathers, nor comanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offering or sacrifices.

- Jerimiah 7:22



And the priest shall burn all on the altar to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savor unto the Lord.

- Leviticus 1:9

Your burnt offering are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet unto me.

- Jerimiah 7:20



God is not a man, that he should lie

- Numbers 23:19

And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.

- Ezekial 24:9



There is none other God but one.

- I Corinthians 8:4

And God said, Let us make man in our image.

- Genesis 1:26



When ye go, ye shall not go empty; but every woman shall borrow of her neighbor, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver and jewels of gold, and rainment; and ye shall put them on your sons and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.

- Exodus 3:21,22

Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbor, nether rob him.

- Leviticus 19:13



At the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.

- Genesis 4:5,6

And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

- Genesis 4:15



Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin... if God so clothe the grass of the field... shall he not much more clothe you? Therefore, take no thought, saying what shall we eat? or what shall we drink? Or wherewithal shall we be clothed?... Take, therefore, no thought for the morrow.

- Matthew 6:28, 30-34

But if any provideth not for his own, especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

- I Timothy 5:8



Be ye angry and sin not.

- Ephesians 4:26

Be not hasty in they spirit to be angry; for anger resideth in the bosom of fools.

- Ecclesiastes 7:9



Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works.

- Matthew 5:16

Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them.

- Matthew 6:1



And Solomon stood before the alter of the Lord, in the presence of all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands toward heaven...

- I Kings 7:22

When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are; for they love to pray standing in the synagogues, and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men...

- Matthew 6:5



And no razor shall come on his head; for the child shall be a Nararite unto God from the womb.

- Judges 8:5

Doth not even nature itself teach you, that if a man hath long hair, it is a shame unto him?

- I Corinthians 6:14



Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.

- Exodus 20:8

One man esteemeth one day above another; another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

- Romans 14:5



For in the six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

- Exodus 20:11

And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought the out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched-out arm; therefore the Lord thy God commanded the to keep the Sabbath day.

- Deuteronomy 5:15



There is nothing unclean of itself.

- Romans 14:14

Nevertheless, these shall ye not eat, of them that chew the cud or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel and the hare, and the coney; for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof, therefore they are unclean unto you. And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass.

- Deuteronomy 14:7,8



Cursed is he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother.

- Deuteronomy 27:22

And Abraham said... She is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

- Genesis 20:11,12



If bretheren dwell together, and one of them die and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger; her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife.

- Deuteronomy 25:5

If a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing...they shall be childless.

- Leviticus 20:21



He that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness.

- Mark 3:29

And by him that believe are justified from all things.

- Acts 13:39



[John the Baptist] is Elias which was for to come.

- Matthew 11:14

And they asked him, what then? Art thou [John the Baptist] Elias? And he saith, I am not.

- John 1:21



Now, after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God.

- Mark 1:14

After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judea... and John was also baptising Enon... for John was not yet cast into prison.

- John 3:22-24



And it was in the third hour, and they crucified him.

- Mark 25:3-4

And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour; and he saith unto the Jews, behold your king... Shall I crucify your king?

- John 19:14-15



They gave him vinegar to drink, mingled with gall.

- Matthew 27:34

And they gave him to drink, wine mingled with myrrh.

- Mark 15:23

[Jesus was the thirsty chap in both verses.]



And the men which journyed with [Paul] stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

- Acts 9:7

And they that were with me [Paul] saw indeed the light and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

- Acts 22:9



Abraham had two sons; one by a bonds-maid, the other by a free woman.

- Galtians 4:22

By faith, Abraham when he was tried offered up Isaac... his only begotten son.

- Hebrews 11:17



Therefore Michal, the daughter of Saul, had no child unto the day of her death.

- II Samuel 6:23

The five sons of Michal, the daughter of Saul.

- II Samuel 21:8



And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel.

- II Samuel 24:1

And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

- I Chronicles 21:1



All power is given unto [Jesus] in heaven and in earth.

- Matthew 28:18

And [Jesus] could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands on a few sick folk and healed them.

- Mark 6:5



There shall no evil happen to the just.

- Proverbs 12:21

Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

- Hebrews 12:6


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Old 28th December 2000, 17:13
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On Biblical Contradictions

In my possession is a collection of biblical contradictions that make up a volume of 512 chapters, equalling some 540,000 words. From here on It is my intention to use this resource in answering the Paulinists (followers of Christianity).
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Old 29th December 2000, 02:30
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Nonson, I don't have the time to explain the true meanings of all these biblical passages, but, I will do so of some. When the Word says "For by grace are ye saved through faith that not of yourselves..." & James2:24 "...so we see that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only". Here we see that we are indeed saved through faith, and not of works. Although we also see that all who have sincere faith, will INDEED also have works to back it up as a confirmation of true faith. We must not misinterpret how one is saved, it's by God's grace(unmerited favour) that we should be called the sons of God, and no GOOD WORK WILL EVER SAVE ANYONE! When It says "justified by works" that sure can be confusing, but still, It does not mean to imply that through works we are saved!


When It says "...eye for an eye..." in the Old Testament, and JESUS says in the New Testsment "...turn thy cheek...", you must see that Old Testament times were very different from New Testament times, and Jesus said "I bringa new commandment unto you..." and there is no error in that. You see, Nonson, you won't ever discover the truth of the Word unless you recieve Jesus, who will show you these things. ALL THOSE "BIBLICAL CONTRADICTIONS" are your untruthful interpretations, you will NEVER, as a lost man undertsand HIS WORD, PERIOD. Nice try, though.
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Old 29th December 2000, 12:49
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PauIL,

So now it is you who proclaims that your g-d is not infallible, nor is his word inerrant. Why not take the next step and denounce him as a figment of a sick mind? Anyway you have indicated that I am correct, and that is victory enough for now.
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Old 31st December 2000, 05:51
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Nonson, how did I indicate you were correct?

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Old 31st December 2000, 15:15
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It is the accepted practice of rational people to respond, in so far as possible, directly to the query of another. Only when there is something to hide does one use subterfuge to avoid replying honestly to it.

The topic is the posted contradictions which were takened from the Bible which is claimed to be the inerrent world of the infallible christian god. There is a conscious effort of the believers in the book to avoid any credible or truthful response to what is labelled as a lie by myself.

There are literally thousands of contradictions and errors found in this so-called holy book that the christians call the "inspired word of god", but which they refuse to defend. Rather they choose instead to attack those who point out the obvious flaws therein.

The christians prove the correctness of the views of their detractors by criticising them instead of taking up the issue being questioned and giving it a truth treatment. By their actions, the christians establish also that they are liars.

Christians are a dangerous lot. They are entirely delusional and hate-filled. By accepting the insane doctrines of the Bible they become the enemy of all people of a democratic mind-set. Every christian of strong conviction as to the truth of the Bible is a racist and a terrorist. They should be sanctioned by the government, if not outlawed and eradicated.

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Old 1st January 2001, 03:35
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#1 This is going to be interesting. First of all regarding Matt.10:28, there is no such passage as you wrote fromthat reference.
#2 For wrath killeth the foolish man.... and Let not the sun go down upon your wrath. Wrath will kill the foolish man and so the Bible instructs us not to let the day pass until wev'e asked God forgiveness and man forgiveness for being angry with them. If we do not ask forgiveness we are foolish in doing so and if we continue to be angry it very well might kill us.
#4 Christ is simly saying that if he alone bear witness of himself his witness is not true because he did not come from heaven of his own will, his Father sent him. Why not give the whole of John8:18, I am one that beareth witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. Being that the Father beareth witness of him, it is therefore true, and so he caan truthfully bear witness of himself.
#5 Prov.13:22 is in the Old Testamnet before the new teachings which Christ taught. Luke12:33 if taken in context, is speaking to the flock of God for them to sell what they had and give alms, but that obviously does not mean your home and things of necessity. You can still leave your children an inheritance and still sell ewhat maynot be absolutely needful, and give to the poor, increasing their heavenly riches.
#6 This is simply saying that if one(a saved individual) fears the Lord(honors him), he will bless you with riches and wealth(for some that may be a bountiful family, with respect and love). Now in the context of Matt.9:24 he'sspeaking to the rich man, who wants to obey Jesus' teaching's. He asks Jesus(roughly), "I have followed all your teachings, what do I lack? Jesus says, "If you want to be perfect(saved), go and sell what you have, and give to the poor, and come and follow me. The rich man walked away sorrowful, not willing to give up the great riches he had to go and follow Jesus. His riches were in the way of him becoming saved. So those who are rich are will most likely not be willing to give up their riches and follow the Christian way, so they love their riches more than Christ.
#7 Other passages in the Bible say thast Jesus was in heaven while he was also on earth. Jesus is God and God is omnipresent. He says that his Father is greater than him. So. Christ is one with his Father in heaven, but he's also omnipresent.Where's the contradiction? There is none. The Bible must be taken in context before claiming it contradicts itself. Context includes whether old or new testament, the rest of the chapter of the alledged contradictory verse, who the chapter is written to and why, and how the the Hebrew translates the verse. Going through all these ridiculous alledged contradictory verses would be alot of explaining, but maybe you should check out the context of these verse beforeclaiming they are contradictions.




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