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Old 18th November 2000, 06:36
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"Go say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to pray for them; You ought to pray for men, and not men pray for you.
Wherefore have you forsaken the lofty and holy heaven, which endures forever, and have lain with women; have defiled yourselves with the daughters of men; have taken to yourselves wives; have acted like the sons of the earth, and have begotten giants?
You being spiritual, holy, and living a life which is eternal, have polluted yourselves with women; have begotten in carnal blood; have lusted in the blood of men; and have done as those who are flesh and blood do. These however die and perish.
Therefore have I given to them wives, that they might cohabit with them, that sons might be born of them, and that this might be transacted upon earth.
But you from the beginning were made spiritual, living a life which is eternal, and not subject to death in all the generations of the world.
Therefore I made not wives for you, because being spiritual, your dwelling is in heaven.
Now the giants, who have been born of spirit and of flesh, shall call upon the earth evil spirits (demons), and on earth shall be their habitation. Evil spirits (demons) proceed from their flesh, because they were created from above; from the holy Watchers was their beginning and primary foundation. Evil spirits shall they be upon the earth, and the spirit of the wicked shall they be called (demons).
The habitation of spirits of heaven shall be in heaven; but upon earth shall be the habitation of terrestrial spirits, who are born in earth.
The spirits of the giants shall be like clouds, which shall oppress, corrupt, (cause to) fall, contend, and bruise upon the earth.
They shall cause lamentation. No food shall they eat; and they shall be thirsty (for a habitat); they shall be concealed (invisible), and those spirits shall rise up against the sons of men (torment), and against women; for they come forth (from them) during the days of slaughter and destruction (the flood or deluge).
And as to the death of the giants, wheresoever their spirits depart from their bodies, let their flesh, that which is perishable, be without judgment. Thus, they shall perish, until the day of the great consummation of the great world.
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Old 18th November 2000, 11:30
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OK - I see this clearly relating to the account of the cohabitation mentioned in Gen 6 and continuing until all the giants were exterminated in King David's time (inc. him killing Goliath of Gath) - but I don't recognise the book you have used. Please enlighted me.
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Old 18th November 2000, 15:57
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The Book of Enoch talks of 200 "fallen angels", who "fell to earth" and were then stuck here while they tried to "repair" their conveyance.

Orders from their "leader" were to not fraternise with the "women" of earth. Of course the first thing all these "angels" did was to mate with every Earth woman they could find.

In the Bible,
Genesis: 6:6, and the "sons of God took the daughters of men for wives".

The "Book of Enoch" was declared apocryphal, and like the Book of Seth, and other ancient manuscripts, was denied entrance into the "approved" version of the original Bible by the Nicene Council of 325 A.D.


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Old 19th November 2000, 15:04
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And rightly so. God knew what He was doing. He knew the difference between His own God-breathed truth and those books that may contain elements of truth, but were also laced with myth or misunderstanding, or any other info NOT God-breathed truth.

And I'm happy to stay with the tried and tested and God-approved TRUTH.
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Old 19th November 2000, 16:39
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If your response wasn't so pathetic in nature I'd have a good belly laugh. Andrew, you are victim of a nasty habit: one of seeing, hearing, and reading what it is that suits your preconceived notions of what is real and what is not. _____________________________________________ The two hundred angels who fell to earth some 19,000 years ago were 'white aryans' whose space craft crashed, stranding them on earth, and they have been raising hell ever since. Even the dumbest theologian and research acknowledges this. -THE DESTROYER-
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Old 20th November 2000, 07:06
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Andrew, I await your mighty howl of indignation. -THE DESTROYER-
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Old 20th November 2000, 12:53
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They do ?????
Then I am taking a leaf out of YOUR book and setting myself up above them all and DENOUNCING such stuff as purely of mythical interest. Fun - interesting - even mentally spellbinding, but factually?....CRAP.
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