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Old 23rd November 2000, 07:05
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The Bible Lies Not Satan
By Peter Murphy

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[Peter M. replying to Alan]
Now doesn't this sound like the Fundie idea of Satan's throne room?

II Chron. 18:19, "And the Lord said, 'Who will entice Ahab king of Israel to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?' And one said this while another said that. 20 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord and said, 'I will entice him.' And the Lord said to him, 'How?' 21 And he said, 'I will go and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' then He said, 'You are to entice him and prevail also. Go and do so.' 22 Now therefore, the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of these your prophets; for the Lord has proclaimed disaster against you."

No, it isn't Satan, it's YHWH! YHWH is much better at being evil than Satan. Two sides of the same coin!!!

Perhaps I will have to ask some of the Fundies to provide a list of the bad things Satan did, right from the very pages of the bible. Perhaps I'll have to start a new thread.

Maybe, this is about Satan? Satan is the Father of all lies!

Jer. 15:18 "Why has my pain been perpetual, and my wound incurable, refusing to be healed? Wilt Thou be altogether unto me a liar, and as the waters that fail?"

Opps! My mistake, that is also YHWH Sorry. Seems the either YHWH is the Father of lies, or that Satan is the Father of YHWH.

Oh, wait, this must mean Satan! Satan deceives!

Eze. 14:9 "If a prophet is deceived and speaks a word, I, the Lord, have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel."

Sorry, that's YHWH, not Satan. YHWH deceives his own prophets, and then punishes the people for believing the deception.

Maybe this!

I Thess. 2:11 "And for this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they might believe what is false, 12 in order that they may all be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness."

I must apologize Alan, all the evil lies and deceptions and deluding is done by YHWH. The bible says so!

So since it is obvious that YHWH is a liar, the bible says so. YHWH is vengeful, violent, vicious, bloodthirsty, and lies repeatedly. Obviously the biggest lie by YHWH is the New Testament, a book of fables and fictions designed to keep people away from God by dwelling on emotionalism and the rejection of God's gift of Reason. No where in the OT does it say that Satan lies, it repeatedly states that YHWH, the false god, does. In the NT, the writers were fiction writers and the tools of YHWH is deluding the world. The wickedness is the fruit of Christianity -- hatred, intolerance, and the sword.

Here are some words by Thomas Paine on the subject:

"To believe, therefore, the Bible to be true, we must unbelieve all our belief in the moral justice of God; for wherein could crying or smiling infants offend? And to read the Bible without horror, we must undo everything that is tender, sympathizing and benevolent in the heart of man. Speaking for myself, if I had no other evidence that the Bible is fabulous than the sacrifice I must make to believe it to be true, that alone would be sufficient to determine my choice."
-- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

Peace,
Peter


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Old 23rd November 2000, 07:17
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A wee bit 'o' logic for you Paulinists (followers of Christianity). If Satan is the Father of Lies, then anything that he says must be the truth, in that he lies in all things. -THE DESTROYER-
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