11 out of 14

[andrewblow]

My screen shows 14 subjects.

11 of them come from Nonson.

Gosh - he must be winning. Or are we all drowning?

Or are we playing a COMPUTER game - feed in a line and see what the PROGRAMME comes up with?

A large balloon and a small pin come to mind........

[Nonson]

You, Andrew, are again threating me with a puncturing of concepts. When, man, will you ever get around to it? Till that time, Peace

[B_Ungaro]

Greetings Andrew,

I am glad to see that you are back. As you know I had a few go-arounds with NONSON. I will have to say that as of late, he has been
civilized.

He posted some stuff that needs to be either
acknowledged or rebutted. Just to say that you believe what you believe because you believe is not enough. You know how I feel about religion in general, so I have to
agree with most of his postings.

Nonson is a believer, so I am not surprised
that he has some hate in his soul. It seems to be a part of religion from the start. His hate for a particular group is not uncommon.
I grew up in that kind of environment. I am happy that I am no longer inflicted.(Texican)

Anyway, happy that you are back.

[Nonson]

Bill, when you moved to Texas you became one of the "afflicted". The only known cure is a quick return to your original state, not State. _____________________________________________ Indeed, I am a believer in Christian teaching, and it would take years for me to state all the reasons why. But here is a general idea. I believe in no country, no nation, no empire, no Republic, no State, and no NWO. I believe in no government, no politics, no social institutions, and no religion other than Christ's teachings. Though I'm forced by tyrannical and ungodly bodies to abide by their earthly and hellish mandates, I am not a citizen of nor willI pay homage to any of the above. I serve my G-d, not man's evil machinations. _____________________________________________ Hatred? Its unhealthy. Anger or rage is the words you must use when addressing my displeasure with followers of Christianity. My ever-flaming dislike of them has never been hid, nor will it be. They are living factories, churning out falsehoods in an assembly-line fashion. How can a believer in Christ stand idle and wordless when witnessing such corruption? Not me. Peace

[B_Ungaro]

Greetings Nonson,

You might turn out to be an OK fellow, after all. I do have some questions about your
faith.

You say that you follow the teachings of Christ. Is Christ one and the same as Jesus
in your view? I have seen you point out conflicts having to do with the birth, life and death of the person we know as Jesus. How do you explain being so conflicted?

You dabble in allegory. Often you point to allegorycal interpretations of the BIBLE. How do you get to these? Do you have a manual of some kind? Seriously, I am interested in allegory, but the Bible does not lend itself to allegory. Things seem to
self-distruct. I have seen you make references to other things beside the Bible.
As a Christian, your Operational Manual is the Bible. How do you mix teachings that are primarily a part of the HINDU faith in with Christianity? Don't get me wrong, it may be possible. I just don't know how.

Anyway, I enjoy your new found tranquility.

Good Luck.

[Nonson]

Bill, I likely have time to answer only one question (have a kid on liberty from Navy who I haven't seen in 5 months). Should be here soon. _____________________________________________ Jesus was/is a man. He was/is holy. He was/is the earthly manifestation of G-d. He was born in Bethlehem. I don't know who the biological father might be. I have my suspicions, but no evidence. He was of Nazareth, literally. This is where part of the screw up begins. Jesus was a Nazarite priest and from a rather well-to-do family of the Davidian line. The Nazarites are well known in the ancient world. John the Baptists was likewise of the Nazarite community. _____________________________________________ I'm not going into a full decoding of Scripture relative to this. Hey! My kid just came in. Have to continue it later. Peace

[Nonson]

Okay, kids are off doing their own thing. I have a few hours. So lets continue. _____________________________________________ We can view the Bible as a code-ed work. Facts are skewed, twisted, distorted, turned into similes and metaphors. Few things are as they seem, especially in the Old Testament. When we come to the NT we are hit hard with allegory and metaphor. Words such as cloth, bread, water, wine, stone, rock, skin, etc., have powerful meanings from both an allegorical and metaphorical stand-point. _____________________________________________ The followers of Christianity and the Fundamentalists refuse to consider the fact that peoples of the ancient world used such verbal tools almost exculsively when communnicating with each other. It was absolutely necessary in that few persons were educated to any degree. Simple pictorial speech, speaking in terms ofsomething else in order to get an idea across, was the only effectively way of making sense to wide segments of the popuation of any country. If one takes a look at transliterated copies of Scripture this fact is easily understood. _____________________________________________ Is there a code book? Not that I know of. My technique is the result of years of study of many hundreds of ancient Mss, and torturing my brain in an effort to make sense of them. Aramaic and Koine Greek are the toughest nuts to crack. It took me over ten years to began to see a pattern of thinking and a nearly universal pattern of expressing the thoughts. It was an education in and of itself. _____________________________________________ There is nothing new in the OT. Every tale or concept in it is easily traced back to Akhenaten, ancient Hinduism, or Zarathustra. Any good historian might point this out to you. In the words of the Preacher, "there is nothing new under the sun." _____________________________________________ The NT offers a new approach to and a new way of entering into that which was prepared in Adam and Eve, a strong spiritual existence. It is what fulfills one's life. In fact, it is the only thing. Before you begin thinking about the bicarmel mind and its short-comings let me say that I am not a subject of religion, a slave of religion, or strongly dependant on religion. I serve my G-d of my own choice, and on my own terms. If by chance that service is insufficient then I'm prepared for the consequences. G-d is not a master. Man is not a slave. G-d does not demand a dog-like prostration of His creation, and especially not of those He has sought to Re-prepare as Bearers of the Holy Spirit. Only the followers of Christianity believe this. They are corrupt. Peace

[This message has been edited by Nonson (edited 12 November 2000).]