Truth II

[Nonson]

When TRUTH appears religionists and secularists disappear. Why? Because that which they hold in common is the LIE. One supports the other, and indeed neither could survive without the other. One tends to think that they drink from the same cup of irrationality. One is certain that G-d controls all things, and the other is certain that G-dless science controls all things. Of course, to the first religion is G-d, and to the second G-d is science. Over the course of many decades the two points of view have become so intertwined that it is near impossible to distinguish one ideology from the other ideology. It sort of looks like a Serpent consuming itself. I guess that is what leads to enlightment. Peace

[B_Ungaro]

Greetings Nonson,

Not so fast, Jose. I is a SECULARIST, and I is here to stay. (Texas Talk)

I would like to point out that SCIENCE becomes SCIENCE when it can be PROVEN and DUPLICATED. Everything else is either a MYTH, a HOAX, a SCAM, or a THEORY.

Religion is a MYTH, a HOAX, and SCAM.

Secularism is mostly SCIENCE and in some cases an EVOLVING THEORY. Theories important to secularism are well on their way to become SCIENCE.

The question is, - do you prefer SCIENCE
and THEORY over MYTH, HOAX and SCAM? HELLO, HELLO, HELLO!!!!!!!!

Good Luck.

[This message has been edited by B.Ungaro (edited 05 November 2000).]

[Nonson]

Greetings Ungaro, _____________________________________________ The manner in which you are using the word 'science' is: knowledge covering general truths or the operations of general law, especially as obtained and tested through scientific method. It is a schema that is failing ever more frequently as researchers push further beyond the frontier of the easily explainable. As I stated previously, scientists have their backs against the wall in coming up with rational and understandable explanations and theories for what they're finding. Some forward-looking people of that community are actually predicting the total collaspe of science. Here is one for you. A theory is an explanation of what an observer/experimenter cause to happen in the manipulation of the thing being studied. In other words, just by looking at or touching the thing you can cause it to do what you consider to be rational behavior. Of course, this just might be another scientific hoax on the scale of the Piltdown Man, or Darwin's Origins of Species. Finally, there has been for sometime now secular historians who assert that the Book of Genesis is, in fact, highly concentrated lessons in science. Of course, Jewish rabbe have been claiming the same thing for centuries. Peace

[B_Ungaro]

Greetings Nonson,

Until told otherwise, please mark me down as
a believer in SCIENCE vs GENESIS or any other
HOAX.

SCIENTIST do have their back up against the
wall only because JESUS NAZIS are winning
the advertising war. Example: George W. Bush
had a religious experience. Since this experience he has not had a DRINK. I think the religious experience came to him from his
wife. She told him that if he keeps drinking she was going to cut him off. That is what I would call a religious experience.

Good Luck.

[Nonson]

Greetings Ungaro, _____________________________________________ As was stated above the religionists and the secularists are twins, each obstinately maintaining that their's is the only truthful position. What the two refuse to consider from a rational viewpoint is that their positions are not universal in acceptance. Its something like the old electrical theory (still in vogue) that the juice flows from the positive pole to the negative pole. Of course, the exact opposite is true. The greater portion of all religious and scientific knowledge is seriously flawed, but the expenditure of time and money needed to correct the errors is not a viable alternative at this time. _____________________________________________ Now as to the Bible being but a hoax. In the decade of the 70's an engineer at NASA took the Book of Ezekiel as being literal and did build a hi-tech working model of old Ezekiel's vision. Peace

[B_Ungaro]

Greetings Nonson,

Paper and or computers have a lot of patience. Most anything can be twisted to fit any HOAX.

If my memory serves me right, Ezekiel was a
Chicken Thief. Surely, we are not going to let people like him tell us about the UNIVERSE. One thing we have to give him credit for, amongst all the people in the BIBLE, he was the only one with a concept
of ATONEMENT. Do you think that there was a real EZEKIEL? Probably just another HOAX.

Good Luck.

[Nonson]

Bill, I've sent you an e-mail. If you don't receive it please e-mail me. Its important. Peace