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Old 25th October 2000, 16:16
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Greetings,

I have some friends on this board and in real life who are members of the Christian Faith. I have pleaded with them to explain to me how they are able to overlook the obvious similarities between the the re-occurring stories of Christianity and dozens of stories in Greek Mythology. Nothing yet. I am hoping that one of you might do this. I would greatly appreciate it.

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Old 26th October 2000, 05:33
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Heh, Bill- ...now I've studied the Bible and I've studied building design and technology, but I've never studied Greek mythology.

HOWEVER - my wife Sue has, and she assures me - and I am willing to go alone with her (this time!!) - that there is no known link between the two. For me, you are right to use the terms as you do : the bible is God's Word of truth (no- YOU didn't say that - I did) and the other is a book full of MYTHS >fun and interesting to read, but of absolutely no use to me in my daily life.

It's like at the end of most films - a phrase like "any apparent relationship between the characters in this film and any actual persons alive, or dead, is purely circumstantial".

Maybe others will be able to post more emphatically due to their greater knowledge of Greek mythology.
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Old 26th October 2000, 05:50
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WRONG! It might help the discussion along if both of you made a study of myths(?)of so-called primitive people. In so far as can be discovered the use of myth started with the early dynastic periods of Egypt. They were used as educational tools in the training of priests who controlled the land. The Greeks refined the myths to include nearly every facet of life. The Romans adopted the Greeks ideas and continued the educational practice till Christianity came along. Peace
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Old 26th October 2000, 11:23
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OK Nonson - I understand your inference there
WRONG !
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Old 26th October 2000, 17:28
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Greetings,

Thank you for your answers. They are probative for sure. Let me assure you that
I will think them through. For now let me re-confirm my concerns:

1. Too many similarities between Greek-Roman
Mythology and Christianity. To include the
Virgin Birth. We know that the Greek-Roman Myths were just that, Myths.

2. There is no evidence of a BIBLICAL Jesus
ever having existed. We are talking about real evidence. Scripture makes for great reading. The sriptures are not evidence.

3. Christianity did not get it's start until well after the death of the BIBLICAL Jesus.
(250+ years) You would think that if Jesus
lived and did the things that he is given credit for, people would have established
Chirstianity much sooner. Why wait for a bunch of NOVELS to be written about his
life and accomplishments.

4.There is some supporting evidence in the Dead Sea Scrolls for some of the stories in the BIBLE. Thre is no mention of Jesus or any of his activities.

Christianity is moving into all aspects of public life in the USA. On November 8th we may wake up with George W. Bush as the President. I hope not, but if we do, we will have a Preident who is bought and paid for by some of the most ZEALOTED Christians.

My concern is that Christianity may well be just another Myth, installed at the head of our government.

Correct me if I am wrong. Please no hate, just facts.

Thank you.
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Old 27th October 2000, 08:50
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Quote:
Originally posted by B.Ungaro:
Greetings,

Thank you for your answers. They are probative for sure. Let me assure you that
I will think them through. For now let me re-confirm my concerns:

1. Too many similarities between Greek-Roman
Mythology and Christianity. To include the
Virgin Birth. We know that the Greek-Roman Myths were just that, Myths.

2. There is no evidence of a BIBLICAL Jesus
ever having existed. We are talking about real evidence. Scripture makes for great reading. The sriptures are not evidence.

3. Christianity did not get it's start until well after the death of the BIBLICAL Jesus.
(250+ years) You would think that if Jesus
lived and did the things that he is given credit for, people would have established
Chirstianity much sooner. Why wait for a bunch of NOVELS to be written about his
life and accomplishments.

4.There is some supporting evidence in the Dead Sea Scrolls for some of the stories in the BIBLE. Thre is no mention of Jesus or any of his activities.

Christianity is moving into all aspects of public life in the USA. On November 8th we may wake up with George W. Bush as the President. I hope not, but if we do, we will have a Preident who is bought and paid for by some of the most ZEALOTED Christians.

My concern is that Christianity may well be just another Myth, installed at the head of our government.

Correct me if I am wrong. Please no hate, just facts.

Thank you.
_____________________________________________^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Probative!??? Really? Perhaps such is a fact to an intellect un-accustomed to rigors of sensible inquiry. _____________________________________________ 1). Assertions. No offer of supporting material. The use of the collective "we" being an appeal to the gullible to support a position that is without a foundation. _____________________________________________ 2). There is no 'actual physical' evidence that Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Moses, David, or a host of other vip-s ever existed. A recorded history of these beings is not credible evidence? Really! _____________________________________________ 3). Research recommendation: see Onkelos. _____________________________________________ 4). The DSS is not credible. They are but mere recordations and, therefore, not "real evidence". _____________________________________________ Can anyone be concered about the concerns of a person who is never able to support his concerns with verifiable information? Peace

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Old 27th October 2000, 11:29
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Greetings Nonson,

My concern was with Christianity. The concept
based on VIRGIN BIRTH. A concept based on Jesus being the son of GOD. A concept based on miracles performed by the son of GOD. A concept that offers redemption through the death of the son of God. A concept that tells
of the son ascending to be with his father.

The following figures from Greek-Roman Mythologyhave some or all of these concepts as part of their story: Perseus, Zoroaster, Korybas, Attis, Agdistis, Tammuz, Dionysis.
There is more. I offer these only as a partial offering.

The Gemara and the Tosefta speaks of 4 or 5 different persons with similar credits to the ones in Greek-Roman Mythology.

Without wanting to offend anybody, I must repeat, there is no historical or any other kind of evidence of a BIBLICAL Jesus having ever lived.

With the existance of all these similar stories in MYTHOLOGY, is it not fair to ask
if Christianity might not be just another MYTH?

I am willing to consider all EVIDENCE that would speak in opposition to my concerns.

Thank you.


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