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Old 21st May 2000, 10:00
d_seven d_seven is offline
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Muhammad,

Just a thought: I think your case might be more convincing if you could state it using your own words, and not referring to sites created by other people.
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Old 21st May 2000, 12:54
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Dear Mohammad,

Thankyou for that reference site. I have read it thoroughly. I find Josh McD. talking with understanding, love and sensitivity. However, I see Mr Deedat (I hope that is correct spelling - it is not in front of me now) to be anything from childishly amusing, to bitterly sarcastic. He appears to want to purposely twist Scripture when it suits him, but believe it also WHEN IT SUITS HIM. I find his oratory unconvincing and factually incorrect.

I found this article you gave me to read, to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that Jesus IS the Son of God, he WAS crucified as stated in scripture, WAS raised from the dead and (as stated in scripture) now sits at the right hand side of his father in heaven.

I guess it's fairly obvious that you and I will never agree on this subject and I would therefore personally prefer to stop arguing, as I don't believe other people want to listen to this. If they do, then I'm more than happy to proceed, but if denials of God's holy word and the ramblings of Mr Deedat are your best offerings, I suggest you quit now.
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Old 21st May 2000, 17:04
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I have grown to hate this question.

I think I am going to move to the outback and live like a hunter-atherer wearing nothing and create NO EVIL!!

You can all with your guilt and sin. It sucks the life out of your soul.

Imagine trying to ascend the Gods...
Imagine seeing all your own beliefs as facts and not guesses - didn't you ever notice you are often wrong. That my be a hint to some people.

And about religion,
don't you know Bill was right and everything we are expected believe with no reason becomes fact or superstition - it is reduced in to into grander sphere - our intellect picks that up. You use that part of your brain everyday - why not now!!!. What you are talking is about is not Islam, it is a political movement for the oppressed and nothing else. All the stats are bunk. And the views that are being shown are edited beyond all belief, and remove any possibility that you have any honour at all.
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Old 21st May 2000, 21:35
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Andrew,

Let's not argue about Jesus. Let's move into what is amazing about Qur'an, I believe you know what Qur'an is.
http://www.it-is-truth.org/frame.htm
http://www.ummah.org.uk/science/amzquran.htm

I would like to turn this subject into learining about Qur'an. I would like to give you this opportunity to prove that Qur'an is false.
Please no offence.

Muhammad
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Old 22nd May 2000, 10:19
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Dear Philip,

I went to Austrailia (Bunbury) last year. I went swimming, but the beach was much steeper than I am used to and 2 successive waves picked me up and slammed me down into the sand with such force it took 3 weeks to fully recover. It seems that your original question (might) have done the same (figuratively speaking) for you. Religious feelings run high - I make no bones about that - but please don't worry about other people's words - I would simply and respectfully ask you NOT to take Bill's attitude, (no offence, Bill - but you know what I believe!) but to ask GOD (wherever / whoever you believe him to be) to come into your experience and lead you to the truth.

Mohammad - You think to lead me on to discuss the Koran ??? You have already proved that you will wriggle out of any difficult situation that you find yourself in by simply denying truth ! There is only one book written by God and it is not the Koran.

Sorry, but this is where I bow out - not in any sense of defeat, but simply because you cannot see the wood, for the trees.

I respect your furvour, but will not argue further. Goodby,
ANDREW.
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Old 22nd May 2000, 11:17
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Andrew,

You say Qur'an is not the words of God, then prove it. You can't just answer a "No". Every answer has a justification.
http://www.it-is-truth.org/


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Old 22nd May 2000, 11:38
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Muhhamad I think you picked the wrong site.

HINT: Don't come back.
REASON: You argue pointlessly by using links that no one ever reads.

Good Luck I hope you find the truth.

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