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Old 3rd July 2008, 01:25
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You have no idea do you, you called me delusional yet you whine about others commenting on you.

I don't care what you are currently doing or if you ever entered a church building, that means nothing at all to me. What does mean something is that you, who are only doing electrical engineering, claims to know more about science than imminent scientists.

There is one simple fact I will leave you with regarding dating methods. Elements are all the same age. Gold is the same age as Potassium, why? well cause by the big bang theory they all occurred at the same time. Therefore by simple inference you of all people with you high education should know that all we have to do is grab some gold and date it to get the definitive date of how old the earth is.

Go back and do some reading, your reasoning skills are so old and backward it isn't funny. Even with your education and grades, btw we dont have GPAs much in Australia but I can tell you I have a distinction average in my BA and a HD average in all my other courses, you are showing you are not up to date with science and its methods. If you want to make a point be clear and concise with it, don't give me dragons and then call me delusional cause you seem to think one lives in your head and then claim something else later on. If you want to argue the merits of science against the short comings of Christianity start giving solid scientific proof that cannot be refuted instead of talking about brain capacity (btw that means size regardless of what you think) and me being able to show you with the evidence that science itself has given that you don't have a clue aof anything you are talking about.

I'm off to work, have a great day.

That dating remark you made just ended this discussion. I am astonished by that and I hope you do your homework on that to see how horribly wrong you are about science. Why are you so bitter? Are you stuck in your ways and when somebody disagrees with you, you bad mouth them and say their reasonings sucks. Just because you can't explain something doesn't entitle you to get angry and spit off jibberish of how science explains nothing. I've left you with a page of stuff to disagree with and you simply can't explain it. Solid evidence and proof are in the last couple of pages. I said delusional, one word. Has the meaning "of false belief or opinion". Why are you taking it so personal that you have to personally insult me. Come on, we were having a civil argument just ended by your ego. Damn right I'll whine. I enjoy discussing this subject until people like you come in. Give your head a shake. Capacity does not mean just size. Dictionary.com - try it!
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Old 3rd July 2008, 23:52
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Dobko, tell your god I am pissed off now, where the hell is my sandwich? I was counting on that bastard and he never showed, I had to pay $8.47 for lunch because I didn't bring any that day. Pardon me for not believing after he just dumped our date like that.

Zbyszhek, you sound funny in your posts. What miracles exactly are you talking about? I applaud my aunt for her belief system, she was an honest woman. I condemn the fake kinds that you see on boards here who chose to "adjust" their religious so that it allows them to use surgeons etc. I am sorry she died, but she has my utmost respect! Not true for most religious folk . So, what are you talking about there? You said I am the kinds that doesn't believe in miracle but wants one, didn't you? Well, this is the part that I found funny - how can I want a miracle if I don't believe in one? Silly post at best from you buddy. I ask you to show me a miracle ON DEMAND, but you can't - then you should take your head out of the gutter and start thinking for a change - there is no miracle, there is no god! Does not exist, period! If there was, would it be so hard to have a miracle ON DEMAND? But yeah, go on... tell me he doesn't owe us bla bla bla... but he has a plan for us all, and he already mapped out our lives, he know when we die and what we will do... yet we have free choice - you guys are all delusional! It is more obvious than a first grade math problem.
And could you explain the whole "you are racist" comment you made to fedorowich? I sure as hell didn't follow that logic, but I would like to see how that came to be. Thanks.

StromUA - dude, you are off your rocker now... fedorowitch just took your words and replaced "god" with "dragon" and you missed the funny in that and responded seriously, even lashing out, ranting. Chill, get a beer, think about it - sarcasm is a great way to have some fun on bulletin boards.

Fedorowich, man, Storm is pissed and bitter because after a few dozen posts I completely destroyed any chance of him winning this argument. If before I was alone here he felt it was alright, one odd goof is a "test from God", but now there is two... oh my - trouble, eh?
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Old 4th July 2008, 01:52
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He grew a turkey....they butchered and cooked it for you, He grew some wheat..... they harvested it and made you bread for your sandwich, He gave you the ability to go and work for some money, you used the money to pay for a sandwich....... sounds like He was there.

God is faithful always.


(Storm..... Psalm 26:12 My foot standeth in an even place: in the congregations will I bless the LORD.)
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He grew a turkey....they butchered and cooked it for you, He grew some wheat..... they harvested it and made you bread for your sandwich, He gave you the ability to go and work for some money, you used the money to pay for a sandwich....... sounds like He was there.

God is faithful always.
As clever as you may want it to sound...
I hate to burst your bubble but my parents had to some of that sex thing to get me to be here, then they had to raise me so that I was able to work to buy that sandwich and your god just skipped out on our meeting, could it be because he doesn't exist?
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He is alive and blessing.



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Old 4th July 2008, 05:59
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He is alive and blessing.



Therefore he exists, right? Wow, that is a very clever argument, you should join a debate team .
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Old 4th July 2008, 10:07
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Our humanity is God's racism

Fedorovich, V-G,

You both gave good and serious signals this time.
We will not be able to convince one another and that is more than sure. The most outstanding philosophers could not agree on this and they still follow endless disputes, how we could solve this Georgian knot of thought?
I have to admit that my senses misguide me from time to time and I come to the conclusion that I do not know myself thoroughly enough. Therefore, I rely on testimony of greater minds who devoted all their lives on trying to explain themselves and others the order of the Universe. I know that I know nothing for 100% sure.
What I believe is that Supernatural Force, never mind in what shape, does not necessarily copy standard human way of reasoning. Typical example – all Canada presumably puts such order – children first, then women, old people, men. For me – it is a typical crippled human feature which is not God’s way. I would think that God values all this groups on the same level and why? Because he is deprived of human emotion like tenderness, desire or sensitiveness to nice looks. A child looks nice so each of us human would save it. Old decrepit man looks ugly – and the most of us would not be inclined to save his life first. So, in the eyes of God we are racists, discriminating a cute child over an ugly elderly.
I often remember Jesus’s preaching on labourers in the vineyard. It is such a fine piece of thinking! The conclusion is almost unacceptable to us humans. Yet, for Him it is obvious that a man can totally improve his life in one second.
V-G are you really so sure that God is a fantasy? I would bet that when you stay helpless in front of a beast you ask Someone for help, whoever He is. You expect that He will grab your hair and raise you above your trouble. You close your eyes and … how good, it was only a bad dream, Uffff. God is useless again.
As to Fedorovich’s question – when you are in love and you beg your lady to become yours, you are never sure she will show her grace. Yet, you are ready to sing serenades under her window. Yes, you expect to be loved but you’re not sure. We humans need love and we are ready to fight, to beg, to kill sometimes in order to enjoy it.
People need love desperately, about all other things. They would give love and they do expect love. The one who satisfies this feeling is the winner. Who it will be? Ask yourself.

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