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Old 13th June 2008, 00:12
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1. re: delusion. Do you admit to be delusional because you do not believe in Santa? Please answer. You seem to skip my posts now and then.

2. re: evidence. How is it that you can use Bible to "show" me God's existence and I can't use it to show you the opposite?

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I can't help you see the way i do and neither you can you help me see the way you do.
Your last post made me think that you are no longer interested in this debate, you seem to be giving up. If that is the case, please let me know, there may be some one else who would be actually interested in what I have to say.
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Old 13th June 2008, 00:15
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re: your last edit.
The child that gets my money will never know my name and I have no problem with that. I have a problem with the notion that someone would give my money and claim that it was God who did it, thus further spreading this superstition. But, nice sarcasm touch, Vasyl'. I see you are getting angry at me, I am not surprised. I attack something that is probably very dear to your heart - God, and I called you delusional (with proof).

Like I said before, if this thread is too much to handle for you, just let me know. We really don't have to go on .
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Old 13th June 2008, 00:15
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1. re: delusion. Do you admit to be delusional because you do not believe in Santa? Please answer. You seem to skip my posts now and then.

2. re: evidence. How is it that you can use Bible to "show" me God's existence and I can't use it to show you the opposite?



Your last post made me think that you are no longer interested in this debate, you seem to be giving up. If that is the case, please let me know, there may be some one else who would be actually interested in what I have to say.
Well you would have to believe it to use as i said before.

No I do not believe in santa or atheism.

I do believe in a higher being.

I am not giving up, but if you would like to you can?

I'm pretty sure my last post wasn't a defeat.
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No I do not believe in santa or atheism.
Don't wiggle your way out of this one Do you call yourself delusional because you don't believe in Santa? There are only two options here "YES" and "NO".

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Does sound like defeat. Sorry, but it does.

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yes, but i do believe in the easter bunny.

No I don't find myself delusional because i once believe it before. (santa) I was given evidence to believe Santa didn't exist through logic and reason. I was told a man did once, but died a long time ago. But even then we continue it because we hold memorable the day jesus was born.

I can't stop believing my childhood because i believed in santa at one time or another.

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Does sound like defeat. Sorry, but it does.
you told me in a previous post i could not convert you, so why try converting you into something that isn't real.

Like I said before it is a test and there are many paths. You choose one.
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OK, so you said "NO" (that is what I gathered from all the wiggly stuff you posted) - it means that I am not delusional either just because I don't believe in God. For if I am delusional because I don't believe it follows that you must be delusional for not believing in Santa. Glad we got that sorted out Now, you do believe in God and God does not exist, you believe in something that does not exist, you are delusional.

delusion - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

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a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary
I tend to trust sources like Merriam Webster dictionary and not WikiPedia .
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Therefore atheism could be considered a false belief because you don't believe in anything. You choose to believe in nothing therefore it can't be true.
Then I guess you do too.

I explained myself in the last post about why.

last time i checked I had to answer about santa not god.
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