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Old 10th January 2008, 02:49
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heheheh I think to believe in him/her, you want him to magically create a cd in your drive that explains in full HIS plans for humanity.

Rumsfeld once said: "We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns - the ones we don't know we don't know".


I remembered a scripture that is particularly relevant to this question of whether there is a God. After Jesus was arrested and he was taken before the chief priests and scribes they said to him "If you are the Christ, tell us." But he said to them, "Even if I tell you, you will by no means believe." (Luke 22:67) The thing is there is already abundant evidence of the suggestion of existence of God. The God of our universe is a reasonable God and he respects the intellectual ability that he gave us. He does not expect blind faith. If the evidence that exists already does not convince you then nothing will.

That's why we have the Bible. God inspired men over many centuries to write a collection of books that tell you about God, his plans for humanity, how the world became screwed up, what is going to happen in the future and how you can gain everlasting life. But God will not force this knowledge on you. If you want to know the truth badly enough then you will find it.
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Old 10th January 2008, 02:56
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No one can 100% prove to you or anyone that God exists and what God is like. Only you can find the God, Buddha or whatever that is within you. Only then can you accept and know the truth and come to know both yourself and God.

God is not in a physics book nor is he in the bible. God is not in a church or your home unless you know God and invite him in to your home both objectively and subjectively.

God does not demand that we worship him out of ignorance or subservience. We do not worship God because he needs and wants to be worshiped. That is absurd. We need to worship God for our sake not his. This is the best way to come to know God and ourselves.

God is not hiding in any burnig bush nor anywhere else. It is only when we look outside of ourselves that we cannot find God or Buddha.
There is no mystery, no magic, no miracle or supernatural event needed to find God and all the proof that you or anyone else could possibly want or need.

Just simply look inside your self, at your seat of consciousness and being with an open wondering heart and mind. It is as natural as opening your eyes and seeing for the first time; but, you have to really actually open your eyes and truly want to see the truth and be willing to accept what is real and true. Far to often our egos and mind sets will not let us do that. Thus we are truly blind and cannot and will not see the truth.

It usually is not something that we can do in one attempt or one day. It takes time to train our mind, our hearts and our egos to be quiet and to accept what is instead of what we believe or want to believe.
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Lilly, no offense here... but your advice sounds like this:
-Lie to self as often as you can and then you will start believing your own lies.

Did you ever watch "The Matrix" movie? Isn't it just as likely that the movie is true as it is that god exists. Isn't it just as likely that if I "open my eyes" and keep asking for the "truth" that I'll start believing we really live in a Matrix? Finally, if I do start believing - there is no way I can prove that I am right or wrong. This is just one out of about a million different scenarios that are JUST AS LIKELY TO BE TRUE as believing in god.
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Just a quick reply. No offence, but I don't compare my belief in God to a movie with of ALL people.........Keanu Reeves.
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Just a quick reply. No offence, but I don't compare my belief in God to a movie with of ALL people.........Keanu Reeves.
None taken. You've been brain washed for years, it sinks in... I can't just convince you with a simple post, can I?
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Old 11th January 2008, 01:51
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Lol!! :d :d
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Lol!! :d :d
OK, you must be an atheist. You have a sense of humour.
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