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Old 10th May 2007, 17:40
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Whispers


The man whispered, "God, speak to me" and a meadowlark sang.

But, the man did not hear.

So the man yelled, "God, speak to me" and the thunder rolled across the sky.


But, the man did not listen.






The man looked around and said, "God let me see you." And a star shined brightly.

But the man did not see.




And, the man shouted, "God show me a miracle." And, a life was born.

But, the man did not notice.




So, the man cried out in despair, "Touch me God, and let me know you are here."

Whereupon, God reached down and touched the man. But, the man brushed the butterfly away

And walked on.




I found this to be a great reminder that God is always around us in the little and simple things that we take for granted ... Even in our electronic age.

So I would like to add one more:

The man cried, "God, I need your help!" And people reached out with good news and encouragement.

But, the man ignored it and continued crying




Don't miss out on a blessing because it isn't packaged the way that you expect.
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Old 11th May 2007, 07:52
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Trials and Tribulations

Trials and tribulations.

Trials develop godly character. "...we exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; and perseverance, proven character, and, hope; and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us...

Trials and tribulations. Persevering proves our faith. "I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me"

Trials and tribulations come with both a purpose and a reward. "Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing." "Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life, which the Lord has promised to those who love Him"

If I were an amputee, simply believing in this, I will live a better life. I will come to terms and accept my disability. It's when you suffer, what you do, proves your faith. You have your own free will.
Having faith and persevering is what will keep me living.
And in the end, if there was no God, my life here still would have been more meaningful and more full of joy (Simply because I believed). But really it was God that helped me help myself live a full life.

OK, let's say I'm an amputee, I don't believe, I have no faith in anything, I'm always upset from my condition, I feel like I was cheated out of life and walk around with a chip on my shoulder... Why live?... Take the easy way out. Destroy all the good you could have had from your life (Remember you only get one)... Simply because you refused to Believe and have Faith!

Trials and Tribulations, Bro'

I hope you don't hate me because of my beliefs. I accept you for who you are.

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Old 12th May 2007, 22:36
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well said.


God bless.
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Old 14th January 2008, 01:47
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Dobko, you are a really nice guy and I like being able to chat with you every once in a while. But if you continue reading my views on religion you may learn to hate me.

>>>my reply>>>>

I run the risk of being hated here. I know it because this is not the first time that I oppose the mainstream religious views and at first the religious bunch is very nice. As long as there is prospect of convincing me and maybe even converting me, religious groups do their best to be all "godly"... again comes down to it as simply the nicest people you can possibly imagine.

The second stage is when they realize that I as rational as they come and there are no arguments that are rational and can convince me that I was wrong.

Same story here. The guy is born without limbs. It is a very sad story and if he needs financial support I'd give a donation (not because he believes in god, but because he is really unlucky and it is an unfair world). But this does not change the fact that he will NOT grow his arms and legs back. No matter how much he asks for it... he believes in god and I think he is right to do so. If he didn't he would try to end his life, right? He needs god to exist, otherwise the extent to which the world is unfair to him is unbearable. God doesn't give him strength, he gets strength from believing in god. By the same token I could believe in the power of concrete to heal me. Silly example but illustrates my point.

My baba is also religious and I can tell you first hand that there are millions of atheists who will sooner go to heaven than her. And yet she can't shut up about how she helped build a church and how we should all pray. There is no god guys.

Lastly, lets all concentrate on one very good argument from the book I posted (link in first post). Why is it that different religious groups think that other religious groups are silly and make no sense when they all are technically the same?
We don't hate you. You are entitled to your belief, opinion or whatever. Freedom to choose without fear of prosecution. Isn't it lovely to live in a country where you can choose?
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Thats nice.

Well said and very true.
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Thats nice.

Well said and very true.
Thank you stepan, I knew I'd have supporters.




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Old 14th January 2008, 17:03
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You know, V-G i really have no answer for that
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