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Old 26th November 2004, 23:44
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November 25, 2004
Russian Political Scientist Blames Polish Conspiracy for Ukraine Election Crisis

Renowned Russian political scientist Sergei Markov told reporters in
Moscow
on Thursday that the ongoing political crisis in Ukraine was in fact a
Polish conspiracy with the aim of imposing Polish patronage over
Ukraine
and thus raising Polish influence within the European Union.

“Yushchenko’s electoral campaign has been developed within the Polish
diaspora abroad and its ideological basis was prepared by former U.S.
national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski and his two sons,” the
Newsru.com web-site quoted Markov as saying.

Markov said that another ethnic Pole, Andrian Karatnitsky, the head of
the
U.S. foundation Freedom House, had hired Serbian spin doctors and
brought
them to Ukraine ahead of the presidential elections. (Another Russian
political scientist, Gleb Pavlovsky, said in a Wednesday evening news
broadcast on Russia’s RTR television channel that Yushchenko’s campaign
had
been prepared by the same specialists who prepared similar campaigns in
Serbia and Georgia).

“The arrival of Lech Walesa and Aleksander Kwasniewski as
intermediaries in
the Ukraine negotiations would become a part of the Tbilisi-Belgrade
scenario, as the objective of these intermediaries is not peace, but a
passing of power to Yushchenko,” Markov said.

He added that the original plan is for Poland to impose its patronage
over
Ukraine. Polish politicians are seeking more influence within the
European
Union, currently dominated by France and Germany, and to achieve this,
they
want to become patrons of the whole of Central and Eastern Europe, the
Russian analyst said.

Markov said the United States would benefit from a Yushchenko victory
as it
would weaken Germany and France on the world arena and also split
Ukraine
and Russia. He also added that “the majority of the representatives of
the
Polish diaspora in the United States hate George Bush and want to cause
a
quarrel between him and Russian President Vladimir Putin”.

Markov also said that the main drawback of the plan was that its
implementation was possible only on condition of extreme secrecy. He
reminded the press that due to historical reasons the Ukrainians are
very
suspicious of the Poles and such a plan would find widespread
disapproval
among the majority of Ukrainians.


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Old 26th November 2004, 23:52
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I have heard this theory before

It's recycled....replace "Polish" with "Jewish" or "Zionist" and replace "Zbigniew Brzezinski" with "Richard Perle"...viola.
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Old 27th November 2004, 02:07
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This website does not quite have the proper smiley to reply to this "conspiracy theory". Something along the line of rolling laughing smiley would be good

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Old 28th November 2004, 17:56
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Zoierana, this is funny...but only at first.

look:
Quote:
Renowned Russian political scientist Sergei Markov
What does it mean? The guy is not some village idiot, he is a respected political scientist. This a sign of something dangerous- of people being brainwashed in Russia,which could lead to many problems in the region.



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Old 28th November 2004, 18:02
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polish plots

At least we hatch a plots discretly ;-)
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Old 28th November 2004, 19:14
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The baggage of poor political socialization

So often politcal events are viewed with a jaundiced eye, conspiracies, power plays from outside the countries borders, payoffs, and it is unfortunately rational to view political events this way given the "political upbringing" of many new voters, including Ukrainians.

Even U.S. Sec Powell's support of Yuschenko is viewed as some sort of power struggle against Moscow rather than the more accurate, and important answer that it's a postion in support of democracy and specifically, the processes of democracy, which are critical to a democracy's health and success.

It may be a generation or two away, unless the electorate can quantum leap their faith and belief in the process and system, but I pray for the day that it works in Ukraine, and people have faith in their vote, and that the vote determines the outcome, not power brokers.

The process is the end game here imho.

EDIT: I should have been careful to add, that many observers, my self included, fully understand the jaundiced eye of the Ukrainian voter. Unfortunately, they've been taught by the wrong teachers. At least in how to run a democracy. I hope they can overcome the shackles of their prior political experiences.
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Old 29th November 2004, 09:47
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>>>Polish conspiracy with the aim of imposing Polish patronage over
Ukraine <<<<<<

No kidding ,interesting ,I did not know ,Poles are so ambisius and then They use Serbs to do that tricky job.
Why they do not use Tatars ,beats me .We could be lot better then Serbs .We have experience in that land
Hell, I have to dig my sword ,buy a horse and have fun once more .Do I need Brzezinski for ?,o well maybe if he buys me a horse.


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