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Old 8th January 2000, 05:38
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Ukraine needs a reform of names!

Today we constantly see it in the Western press or Internet: In the first line they write Andrej Shevchenko, in the second Andrij Szewczenko, sometimes Sergej Rebrov, sometimes Serhij (or even Serhyij) Rebrow;
Wolodymyr Klichko or Vladimir Klitchko? Even after 8 years of independence there is such a theatre with names and surnames.
Why is it so?

In the former USSR all names were transliterated according to the English pronouncation and letters basing on Russian versions of names Even having a Ukrainian-Russian translation there were funny things
such as Nikolaj Vtoroj - Mykola Druhyj. Was he Mykola? I din't suspect it. Or Fedir Dostojevs'kyj and many many others.
I just compare it with the Western names. Assumption: a French is called Jacques. In England he remains Jacques, in Germany too, in Iceland or Zimbabwe he is still Jacques. He comes to the independent Ukraine and becomes its citizen, lives for 200 years in ... may be Achtyrka and now he wants to emigrate to France. Goes to OVIR and gets
a touristic passport. He opens it and sees: his name is Zhak. Well, I don't really suppose that the French could ever pronounce this masterpiece. Try it, ma belle!

You see, we have a problem. One reason is our cyrillic alphabet and we pronounce what is written. We don't have any latin equivalent (the Serbs have one) and we have this stupid rule translating names from Slavonic languages: Pilsudski or Pilsuds'kyj or may be Pilsudskij?
Help me, please.

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Old 8th January 2000, 06:48
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Greetings,
You forgot Andrii Shevchenko.
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Old 8th January 2000, 07:33
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I do not think that it's a very important reforms that are needed immidiately in Ukraine there are others more important, and names... names will change into Ukrainian with time, only matter of time.
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Old 9th January 2000, 08:16
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Dear Stas!
I agree with you that names will change into Ukrainian with the time (I mean normal names).But it is not so clever to translate the names of souvereigns into Ukrainian, nobody translates Jacob into Jakiv. But we do it with russian names. I think, Vladimir Putin should remain Vladimir Putin in Ukrainian and not VOLODYMYR.
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Old 9th January 2000, 08:23
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But dont you think "Volodymir" sounds a lot better then "Vladimir" ?
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Old 9th January 2000, 09:57
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But his name is Vladimir! Besides, if we translate Czech of Serbian names, it remains
Vladimir. Why do we translate russian ones?
May be because of our condescension to them?
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Old 9th January 2000, 09:58
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To Mr. Magyar: Thank you for this addition!
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