Why is Yuschenko trying to dupe us?

[Patriot15]

I don▓t understand only one thing why is Yuschenko trying to dupe us? He is speaking that if he becomes president of Ukraine we will bathe in gold. He promises that we will be in UN, EU and NATO by his help because he has so many ties with Western countries and first of all with US. To tell the truth I don▓t understand him he knows that general part of Ukrainian population knows that some European countries don▓t want to have Ukraine as part of these structures, especially the EU. Why is he lying? Unfortunately, for Juschenko, the US, his major patron, is losing its position in UN and in future they will have to listen to its European partners▓ opinion. Well they view Ukraine as one more testing area for American manoeuvres under the guise of mutually beneficial cooperation. And we sent our guys to Bosnia and Iraq and as a result they think we helped them gratis.

[hi009]

You are quite right! Did you see what our peacekeepers do? I saw. Well Americans were shocked. Ukrainian peace mission did only trade and change. I▓m sure that Americans don▓t want to go on working with us. Moreover in Iraq they entered in agreement with bandit▓s gangs didn▓t fulfill their own obligations. The American friends are disappointed in our guys! I heard that our soldiers don▓t know how to use weapons (one soldiers killed another by carelessness). I▓m sure that we have no chance to enter the EU. Moreover I▓m afraid really that our mission in Iraq can cause the same terrorist acts in Ukraine as in Madrid. One representative of ⌠Al-Kaida■ said that it will be a revenge on Ukraine. I don▓t know but I think that we shouldn▓t be helping EU or NATO.

[happy_gunner]

Originally posted by hi009
You are quite right! Did you see what our peacekeepers do? I saw. Well Americans were shocked. Ukrainian peace mission did only trade and change. I▓m sure that Americans don▓t want to go on working with us. Moreover in Iraq they entered in agreement with bandit▓s gangs didn▓t fulfill their own obligations. The American friends are disappointed in our guys!

They're in no position to criticise, they've cocked the whole occupation up from day one, bin Laden must think it's his birthday every day.
At least it wasn't Ukrainians who disbanded the Iraqi army.

Originally posted by hi009

I heard that our soldiers don▓t know how to use weapons (one soldiers killed another by carelessness). I▓m sure that we have no chance to enter the EU.

Since the EU has no idea why it still exists, apart from keeping thousands of pen-pushing leeches in a job, maybe that's not so bad.

Originally posted by hi009

Moreover I▓m afraid really that our mission in Iraq can cause the same terrorist acts in Ukraine as in Madrid. One representative of ⌠Al-Kaida■ said that it will be a revenge on Ukraine.

Ukraine would (hopefully) be at the back of the queue, Al-Qaeda haven't yet attacked the UK or Poland

[Ulysses]

Originally posted by Patriot15
I don▓t understand only one thing why is Yuschenko trying to dupe us? He is speaking that if he becomes president of Ukraine we will bathe in gold. He promises that we will be in UN, EU and NATO by his help because he has so many ties with Western countries and first of all with US. To tell the truth I don▓t understand him he knows that general part of Ukrainian population knows that some European countries don▓t want to have Ukraine as part of these structures

I'm not sure Ukraine will be a part of the EU in the near future, Brussels will probably want to increase the bureaucracy to Western levels.

especially the EU. Why is he lying? Unfortunately, for Juschenko, the US, his major patron, is losing its position in UN and in future they will have to listen to its European partners▓ opinion.

I very much doubt it. The UN and EU are little more than a glorified country clubs. Nothing is accomplished there. What do you expect from an organization (UN) that has LIBYA as head of human rights. The Israelis take out Yassin, the head of an organization recognized as terrorist by the EU and the US, and they get condemned. Some terrorists in Kosovo are causing problems with the Serbs and no mention of it in the UN.

Well they view Ukraine as one more testing area for American manoeuvres under the guise of mutually beneficial cooperation. And we sent our guys to Bosnia and Iraq and as a result they think we helped them gratis.

Actually NATO footed the bill for the peacekeepers.

[happy_gunner]

Originally posted by Ulysses
What do you expect from an organization (UN) that has LIBYA as head of human rights. The Israelis take out Yassin, the head of an organization recognized as terrorist by the EU and the US, and they get condemned. Some terrorists in Kosovo are causing problems with the Serbs and no mention of it in the UN.

It's even better than that: The UN finally agreed to denounce the Kosovan Albanian terrorist attacks on Serbs, but only on condition that they refuse Russia's demand that Kosovan Albanian terrorists be blamed.

After the rescue of the Israeli hostages from the PFLP at Entebbe Airport, when Idi Amin as the head of a sovereign nation aided and abetted terrorist hijackers in an act of international piracy, the UN reacted with a heated debate on whether to condemn Israel for violating Ugandan sovereignty.
You couldn't make it up.

[Ukrainian_patriot]

History is reiterated. International fond ⌠Renaissance■, Ukrainian branch of Soros Foundation, is to conduct a campaign of exit-polls during the presidential elections in Ukraine as George Soros did it in Georgia and Adjaria. Then he plans to publish results, which undoubtedly should differ vitally from the official ones. As usual Soros wants to provoke disturbances in this way and thus it will be greatly conducive to coming Ukraine▓s nationalists, headed by Yuschenko, to power. Soros▓ successful experience in Georgia has inspired him to further heroism. So we can have one more ■velvet revolution■ and our government will get their salaries from Soros.

[Ulysses]

Not only in Ukraine or Georgia...He's tryingn to bring a Velvet Revolution to the US. He's spending 15 million to try to unseat G.W.

Originally posted by Ukrainian_patriot
Soros▓ successful experience in Georgia has inspired him to further heroism. So we can have one more ■velvet revolution■ and our government will get their salaries from Soros.