The Threat Posed by Slavic Unity

[Nonson]

Slavic unity would pose a substantial economic, monetary, and military threat to the European Economic Union. If there were even a chance of such unification occurring Germany would start WWIII immidiately to prevent it happening. For there are a number of reasons to believe that Slavic unity would be far more dangerous than that perceived of the USSR.

Nonson
03.2201

[Irinka]

I agree with you Nonson.
Imagine, even if this (Slavic Unity) was to happen, which I do not think that it ever will, how can it possibly be governed?

[Nonson]

Irinka,

It could not be governed. I base that conclusion on my belief that Ukraine is the absolute crossroads between Europe and Asia, and any Slavic unification would bring unbearable pressure on the country; if not outright warfare.

Nonson
03.23.01

[TuchajBay]

[B]Slavic unity would pose a substantial economic, monetary, and military threat to the European Economic Union. If there were even a chance of such unification occurring Germany would start WWIII immidiately to prevent it happening. For there are a number of reasons to believe that Slavic unity would be far more dangerous than that perceived of the USSR.

Nonson

I can not see Germany starting WW3 in this situations for that reason.Slavic Union? it depends who with whome.
It could work,but again not everybody grew up to it.
And those who could understand, need it less
What is left of that, is only one posibility,Union between Russia ,Belarus and Ukrain.And if this scenerio is enforced ,Ukrain is a bigest loser.Hope does not happen.

[Nonson]

Bay,


Germany would not permit such a union because of the impact it might have on the EEU. Too, the militaries of the Slavic states would definitely pose a threat to all of Europe and the Islamic states that are now infringing on the rights of the Slavs.

Though it might become necessary for Ukraine to become Russia's possession I can't see where it would benefit the Ukrainians.

You musr remember that I see Ukraine as the crossroads between Europe and Asia, and my geo-political views are skewed along that line of thought.

Nonson
03.26.01

[TuchajBay]

Nonson

Germany definitly wont like that idea at all,but the most they could do is put economical prssure on Poland and rest of the block.Militarly they could not angage themself in it.
They are part of Nato and the whole Nato has to get involve itself in it ,witch I can not see it happening .
But to make a Union it has to be more then just one country willing to patricipate,and can not be aim against Russia itself.They are still power to recon.And in curent situations they will like to play nr 1 status.And there is nothing what we can do about it.The union of Ukrain Bielarus and Poland with special relations with Russia could have some merits,but like you said imposible to make it in this time of the history,because of all the difrences.

"Though it might become necessary for Ukraine to become Russia's possession I can't see where it would benefit the Ukrainians."

You right on these, if is made the old way it wont do any good for you,just continuations of old crap,


"You must remember that I see Ukraine as the crossroads between Europe and Asia, and my geo-political views are skewed along that line of thought."

You right on this too,I agree with you on that .
Is dificulte to hold independence if you are on crossroad.
The best example is history of your country plus Poland
and some others in the nighborhood.
There is allways someone who would like to use the crossroad for own crossing.And once they do it we suffer the most
And the smaller and more divided we are the easer is for them to cross.The only time nobady could cross that part of land so easly was from 13 to 18 century when there was a Union of some sort.And for that reason had to be distroid.
And we helped a lot in that own destractions.
I guess you know that saying.
Nothing Venture nothin gain
TB

[Nonson]

Bay,

I see the real breakup of the Ukrainian state as occurring between 1712-1783. During that period there were seven Russian rulers: Tsar Peter, Cathrine, Peter II, Tsarian Anna, Elizabeth, Tsarina Catering II, and Peter III. All of them brutalized Ukraine with the Cossacks, and left the Ukrainian people beatne into the ground. But it was the Rumyantsev policy that finally destroyed the state: a deliberate erasing of culture and customs of an ancient people. Russia needed Ukraine then and Russia needs Ukraine now. Maybe even moreso than 300 years ago. Too, Ukraine is of vital interest to the US. Especially with what is developing in the bordering countries. Maybe we will soon elect a president who can see a day beyond his nose.

We must remember that Germany controls the EEU. How Germany goes so goes it. I don't know that its committments to NATO are strong enough and binding enough to hold the Leaders in check if there were indeed a chance of Slavic unity.

I believe that right now there is too much on NATO's plate for them to get further involved in Europe. Even as we communicate the Balkans are on the verge of exploding. There is little that can be done to prevent it. But one thing is for certain. If the US gets involved in another shooting war it wont be to defend Muslims. They now see the mistake made of late.

Nonson
03.26.01