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Old 28th March 2016, 20:42
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Watching events very closely over the past couple of years.

I pose the following thoughts and comments.....(in no particular order....)

1. Yats is bowing out, it seems gracefully; this does not make sense for a leader of the Maidan. What has he been offered? Why is he not fighting his removal? Don't make sense.

2. Poroshenko promised a lot,,,,but has delivered only crumbs.
I fully supported and had 100% faith in him. Friends and relatives in Ukraine said he will just be like Yanuk. I said no....wait,,,he will bring meaningful change. I was wrong,,,they were right.

3. Jaresko is also leaving, after doing her best, but I think finally throwing her hands up in disgust.

4. The supreme court judges still sit and rule,,,,after they ALL have been proven to be corrupt in rulings and taking of bribes. ( A huge failure of Poroshenko)

These comments are very pessimistic. But the facts are facts.
Nothing has really changed,,,,if anything corruption has increased, as Yanuks hand is not involved, and corrupt 'entepreneurs' are taking full advantage. So sad.

I still have faith in the Ukrainian people,,,,,it is just going to take longer, than we , the diaspora, think it should take.

Another Maidan 2.0,,,,,another rout of an ineffective govt,,,another step the people must do in order to achieve rule of law and accountabitlity. Maybe after a half dozen or so Maidans,,,,the message will get through to the oligarchs and thousands of crooked beaurocrats,,,,that Ukraine belongs to the people,,,,,,and not to the ruling/governing crooked politicians/cops/beaurocrats.

The future of Ukraine lies with the people and their demands. If no effort is made for accountabilty, then Ukraine will forever be at the mercy of a few.

SLAVA UKRAINI!!

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Old 28th March 2016, 21:59
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Hello Bob.

You might find some solace here. It is written by Yaroslav Hrytsak, historian, journalist, professor at the Ukrainian Catholic University in Lviv

excerpt: Ukraine in the home stretch -Euromaidan Press |

Should we mourn and despair? That depends how you look at the situation. The window of opportunity for rapid changes in Ukraine has closed. However, the corridor of the next 20-25 years has been opened; the country can move forward until today’s young generation reaches middle age and its European hopes and spirit capture the heart of all Ukrainians.

If the window has closed today, it doesn’t mean that a new one won’t appear. It may emerge in a month if and when radical reformers enter the government or in 5-10 years. No one knows in advance, but we should be prepared…
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Ukraine is a long-distance runner and not a sprinter; its course is much longer because of the particularities of its past. Ukrainians have been running along this course for almost 30 years. In this period of time, they succeeded in breaking away from the empire in 1991, building a state structure almost from scratch in 1990, creating a nation despite internal discord, resisting and surviving a “Russian spring” and refusing to return to authoritarian rule in 2004-2014. It’s also important that in recent years, Ukrainian society has built a bilingual reformist core, as yet a minority, but superior in quality and mobilization to the passive majority.

Ukraine is nearing the finish line of the race when the last crucial step will be the collapse of the limited access system and the creation and sustainability of viable and vigorous elite institutions that would function outside the state. There is no guarantee that we’ll make it, and history has shown us many cases of progress and regress. But, the home stretch is always the most difficult. The main thing is not to fall into a state of depression, not to stray off the track.

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Old 29th March 2016, 00:59
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THE SAD REALITY OF UKRAINE....IN TODAYS WORLD.......

Quote......."...America and Europe don’t have much at stake in Ukraine. It’s an unpleasant truth which sets off much screeching in Kiev, but that makes it no less true. For most of their respective histories America and Europe got along just fine with Ukraine under St. Petersburg’s and later Moscow’s control. That has not changed..."

Obama...2014........"..Ukraine holds no strategic interests for the US.."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougband.../#74a501e54cd1
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Old 29th March 2016, 03:40
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THE SAD REALITY OF UKRAINE....IN TODAYS WORLD.......

Quote......."...America and Europe don’t have much at stake in Ukraine. It’s an unpleasant truth which sets off much screeching in Kiev, but that makes it no less true. For most of their respective histories America and Europe got along just fine with Ukraine under St. Petersburg’s and later Moscow’s control. That has not changed..."

Obama...2014........"..Ukraine holds no strategic interests for the US.."
Who knew that this smart man wasn't smart enough to know that no one is always right? He has/had absolutely no interest in foreign relations, but he will be gone real soon. Maybe because he failed so miserably at it ?
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