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Old 4th January 2015, 00:31
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Czech President considers Ukraine’s Yatsenyuk “prime minister of war”

3 January 2015 | FOCUS News Agency | Sophia, Bulgaria

Prague. Czech President Milos Zeman thinks that Ukraine’s Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk is a “prime minister of war”, who does not want a peaceful solution to the problems in his country.

“Judging by some of the statement of Prime Minister Yatsenyuk, I think that he is rather a prime minister of war because he does not want peaceful solution, as recommended by the European Union (EU), but instead prefers to use force,” President Milos Zeman said in an interview for the Saturday edition of Pravo newspaper.

In Zeman’s words, the policy carried out by Kiev has two faces – one of President Petro Poroshenko, who can be a “man of truce”, and another one – of Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who shows uncompromising position towards the revels in East Ukraine.


Czech President considers Ukraine’s Yatsenyuk “prime minister of war”
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This is probably why they are a good pair that Ukraine voted to keep, there's a balance there.

Poroshenko will be able to hold Yatsenyuk back, but Yatsenyuk will prevent Poroshenko conceding too much to Putin.

Ukraine is lead by a dove and a hawk and that's probably the arrangement the country needs.
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This is probably why they are a good pair that Ukraine voted to keep, there's a balance there.
GoodLuckUkraine, I actually hadn't thought of it this way. As much as I dislike Yatsenyuk, you make a good point!
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GoodLuckUkraine, I actually hadn't thought of it this way. As much as I dislike Yatsenyuk, you make a good point!
Not really. Well, nothing extraordinary with their arrangement. Both aren't ethnic Ukrainian so sending people into war is not a concern. What is are keeping up appearances. Both like to talk 'tough.' Poroshenko has already declared his willingness to implement martial law.

Both are puppets and merely playing two different roles in that regard. 'Yats' was a darling of the US but they didn't want him 'in charge' permanently.
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Not really. Well, nothing extraordinary with their arrangement. Both aren't ethnic Ukrainian so sending people into war is not a concern. What is are keeping up appearances. Both like to talk 'tough.' Poroshenko has already declared his willingness to implement martial law.

Both are puppets and merely playing two different roles in that regard. 'Yats' was a darling of the US but they didn't want him 'in charge' permanently.
I disagree, they do appear to be a good team. Balance is good.

Conspiracy theories are just that, conspiracy theories. Time will tell if there is any truth to your theories, right now, Ukraine needs balance along with Russian withdrawl from inside their borders. All of them.
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Tkach : Both aren't ethnic Ukrainian so sending people into war is not a concern.
The Poroshenko surname is in fact Ukrainian. Today there are appx 400 people w/this surname living in Eastern Ukraine and have given names like Oksana, Tamara, Nadezhda (Nadya), Maryna, Evdokhia and Marya as per Christian Calendar. The men have equally Christian given names like Hryhoriy, Taras and Ivan etc.

It has been inferred in these forums that Poroshenko is Jewish. He is not Jewish and only a bigot would raise this as an issue anyway.

I have no time to look into Yatseniuk surname right now, but I will shortly.
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Arseniy Yatsenyuk is not Jewish. He is ethnic Ukrainian w/some Romanian mix. This is very common mix in Chernivtsi region (historic Bukowyna Province, Land of Beech Trees), where his family originates.

FYI Jewish IS NOT AN ETHNICITY. It is a religion !
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Czech President considers Ukraine’s Yatsenyuk “prime minister of war”
3 January 2015 | FOCUS News Agency | Sophia, Bulgaria

Prague. Czech President Milos Zeman thinks that Ukraine’s Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk is a “prime minister of war”, who does not want a peaceful solution to the problems in his country.
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Ceski Noviny (Czech News) Jan 2, 2015
Zeman to go to Moscow in May to attend war´s end celebrations

Prague - Czech President Milos Zeman will visit Russia minimally once in 2015, namely to attend the celebrations of the 70th anniversary of the end of World War Two in May, ParlamentníListy.cz writes today referring to his spokesman Jiri Ovcacek.

Media write, however, that Zeman has also been invited to a bilateral visit that could take place in the autumn. He has not yet allegedly accepted the invitation.

Zeman, whom opponents have criticised for his accommodating stance on Vladimir Putin´s regime, including on the Ukraine conflict, has been invited to the celebrations of the Victory Day together with other statesmen.

"The President has received an invitation to the celebrations of the 70th anniversary of Victory Day in Moscow on May 9, 2015. The President has accepted the invitation the same as he did last year in connection with the celebrations of the Normandy landings," Ovcacek said.

Opponents criticised Zeman for challenging the effectivity of the sanctions the EU imposed against Russia in reaction to the annexation of Crimea.

Zeman also doubted the presence of Russian soldiers in eastern Ukraine. He defended his stance saying he wants to protect the interests of Czech exporters and investors in Russia.


Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka (Social Democrats, CSSD) met Zeman over some of his statements in December. He told lawmakers afterwards that certain "nuances" of opinion on foreign policy exist in other European countries too.

Sobotka said he considers concurring stances taken at EU summits, in NATO and the United Nations to be of key importance.
Zeman to go to Moscow in May to attend war´s end celebrations - ČeskéNoviny.cz
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