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Vladimir Putin lays out a menacing choice for the West

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Vladimir Putin lays out a menacing choice for the West

By Editorial Board October 27 at 7:22 PM

ANYONE WONDERING what Western leaders have been up against when they try to reason with Vladi­mir Putin need only read the transcript of the Russian ruler’s three-hour performance at the annual Valdai conference in Sochi on Friday. Mr. Putin was politely questioned by an assortment of Moscow-approved foreign journalists, scholars and former policymakers about Russia’s aggression in Ukraine — and out poured a poisonous mix of lies, conspiracy theories, thinly veiled threats of further aggression and, above all, seething resentment toward the United States.

“Having declared itself the winner of the Cold War,” the United States, with the help of “its satellites,” according to Mr. Putin, promoted a “unipolar world [that] is simply a means of justifying dictatorship over people and countries.” According to Mr. Putin, Washington has created chaos across the world by conspiring to foment revolutions, including what he views as an armed “coup d’etat” in Ukraine. Even worse, it believes “there is no need to take into account Russia’s views.”

Mr. Putin portrayed the invasion of Crimea as the corrective to this “imperialism.” “The bear will not even bother to ask permission,” he boasted. “Here we consider it master of the taiga, and . . . it will not let anyone have its taiga.” He made it clear that most of Ukraine is part of the “taiga” over which the Kremlin claims dominion — and Ukraine, he warned, “will certainly not be the last” “example of such sorts of conflicts that affect [the] international power balance.”

Other nations “at the intersection of major states’ geopolitical interests,” Mr. Putin said, could suffer from “internal instability,” leading to “a whole set of violent conflicts with either direct or indirect participation by the world’s major powers.” NATO’s Baltic members, as former republics of the Soviet Union, will no doubt pay particular attention to that prediction.

In a somewhat positive sign, Mr. Putin conceded that Western sanctions against Russia “are a hindrance” and, after more railing at the United States, he offered that “we are always open to dialogue, including on normalizing our economic and political relations.” He even said that Russia is willing to resume discussions of nuclear arms reductions — a favored initiative of President Obama that Mr. Putin stiffed two years ago.

The problem is Mr. Putin’s notion of what would constitute an acceptable settlement. After recalling with apparent nostalgia “the rules” of the Cold War, and twice mentioning that former Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev pounded his shoe on a dais at the United Nations (“the United States and NATO thought: this Nikita is best left alone”), Mr. Putin protested that “we don’t need to be a superpower.” However, he said, “we want others to stay out of our affairs and to stop pretending that they rule the world.”

Judging from his rhetoric, Mr. Putin is offering the West a choice between ceding Russia its “taiga” — including dominion over Ukraine and whatever other parts of Eurasia that Mr. Putin chooses to claim — and “a whole set of violent conflicts.” No wonder that German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who has talked to the Russian ruler more than any other Western statesman, described him as “in another world.” Mr. Obama recently lumped Mr. Putin’s Russia with Ebola and terrorism as major threats facing the world. The speech infuriated Moscow, but if the Kremlin chief was hoping to show that he doesn’t deserve such treatment, he failed.

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Perhaps, if the west really do believe that Putin has actually lost his sanity (and it is looking like he has), that is why they are scared he might do something world changing and are being timid.

Still pisses me off to read about "No military solution" because I absolutely hate it when I visit news sites and learn of more Ukrainian territory being lost to Russian thugs and Putin's oppression.

I want Ukraine to be provided the tools to stop the Russian advance and even push it back.
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So you want more Ukrainians to get killed in the process?

Is there anyone on this site besides me who thinks it's a hopeless exercise that will result in more needless deaths? Besides, it's taking up lots of resources in terms of $$. The country has no money. But, they are thowing out $$ for this. It's either full throttle in which countless lives will be lost and lots of $$ or this half-measures, negligible investment of what they are doing now. They cannot do the former anyway and they won't win or gain with the latter.

It's foolish and of course, the government doesn't care since they're not on the field.

The conflict is absurd and they should try to build their infrastructure and economy - let the Eastern part collapse on their own.

But, of course, you can cheer the deaths from your computer keyboard.... nothing you'll lose.
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So you want more Ukrainians to get killed in the process?

Is there anyone on this site besides me who thinks it's a hopeless exercise that will result in more needless deaths? Besides, it's taking up lots of resources in terms of $$. The country has no money. But, they are thowing out $$ for this. It's either full throttle in which countless lives will be lost and lots of $$ or this half-measures, negligible investment of what they are doing now. They cannot do the former anyway and they won't win or gain with the latter.

It's foolish and of course, the government doesn't care since they're not on the field.

The conflict is absurd and they should try to build their infrastructure and economy - let the Eastern part collapse on their own.

But, of course, you can cheer the deaths from your computer keyboard.... nothing you'll lose.
But whats the solution? For one thing, Ukraine has a duty to it's citizens. Apart from that, you cannot have a flourishing economy if every day land is taken away from you. It's not an uprising, it's foreigners (in one way or another) that take over these cities.

Side note, at a point, not sure if he still is, the president's son joined the army. Not saying he was on the front lines or anything like that, but I think we should see more of that.
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I'm British. We had Winston Churchill. We do not surrender to oppressive foreign invaders no matter how heavily the odds are stacked or what the eventual cost will be.

Putin wants to dominate and must not be allowed to.
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Lest we forget the echoes of history and the secret Yalta Conference in 1945...
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