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Old 15th August 2014, 15:54
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Polish St. Jadwiga whose most prominent ancestors were of the Serbian Nemanjic Imperial dynasty, via our local Kotromanic house in Bosnia


Now, when we are at Bosnia and having in mind context of this thread, you would be glad to hear that Serbians regaining their influence in Bosnia, despite that west of Europe and USA in deal with Islamic league, done everything possible to sponsor blossom of the Islam there.

Some say that last years concert of female singer Lepa Brena from Serbia, that was organized in Tuzla in Bosnia-Herzegovina had political background. Those who say so don`t like that flag of former Yugoslavia was seen at the concert, that Brena sang about ``Slavic soul``,... they especially don`t like words of the song like.... ``... who gave golden hair to you, Slavia of course, Jugoslavija...``. Actually, it was pretty brave to sing this in Bosnia, knowing that not far from Tuzla exists number of newly created villages populated with worse Arabic mujaheedines, after Civil war in former Yugoslavia ended.

While i can`t say is it truth about political background of the concert but for sure, we Slaveno-Serbs won`t feel fear to feel Slavic in Bosnia. Serbian lands won`t die in silence. Ancestral land of one Polish Jadwiga won`t be turned into the Sharia law dominion, not if its up to us Serbs. There is no open conflict now, in Bosnia. Just, civilizations clashes in more sophisticated way. Look what eruption of pro-Slavic feelings in Bosnia, initiated singer from Serbia >>>

Lepa Brena - Jugoslovenka - Concert at Tuzla, Bosnia

Lepa Brena Jugoslovenka Tuzla - YouTube

Yugoslavian /English translation/

Where are you from, pretty girl
who gave birth to the blue eyes
who gave you the golden hair
who made you so passionate

Chorus x2
My eyes are Adriatic sea
my hair is Panonian wheat
wistful is my Slavic soul
I'm Yugoslavian

Where are you from, pretty girl
where did you grow, spring flower
where free sun is warming you
when you dance so seductively

Chorus 2x

Where are you from, pretty stranger (girl)
where have you been stealing sun's shine
where were you drinking honey wine
when your kiss is so sweet

Chorus 2x

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Old 15th August 2014, 18:55
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What is also important, Serbian influence strengthen in other realms of former Yugoslavia, in Slovenia, too. Fortunately, feelings for Yugoslavia may easily turn to be pro-new Commonwealth feelings. After all, Yugoslavia was/is nothing but South of Sarmatia (ie Commonwealth).

These days in Slovenia >>> Serbs are coming >>>

Magnifico & The Serbian Army Orchestra - iThink

Magnifico & The Serbian Army Orchestra - iThink - YouTube

Magnifico & The Serbian Army Orchestra - Ubiću te - (live) - I`ll kill you (passionate love song)

Magnifico & The Serbian Army Orchestra - Ubiću te - (live) - YouTube

Magnifico - Hir aj kam, hir aj go / Hir ai kam, Hir ai go

Magnifico - Hir aj kam, hir aj go / Hir ai kam, Hir ai go - YouTube
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Old 16th August 2014, 00:04
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One important thing. One more reason for Serbs to look forward to some new Commonwealth. Only in Commonwealth is possible to all Serbs to live in one state.



Many Ukrainians has Serbian ancestry. As well as many Poles. Historical circumstances led to it due to Turkish invasion onto the Slaveno-Serbian lands on Balkan and in Central Europe. Many Serbian refuges settled in Ukraine during Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Russian Empire. Also, considering that Serbs played role of the military elite of the Commonwealth, after Commonwealth ceased to exist, they abandoned army and joined to live in Serbian settlements in what is today`s Poland and Ukraine. Bulk of the Serbian army personnel within Commonwealth represented regiments of famous Serbian Gusar cavalry, also known as winged cavalry (that led to formation of Polish winged cavalry and Polish Hussars, as well as Hungarian Hussars and influenced organization of Ukrainian/Russian Cossacks and ultimately gave principles for formation of USA cavalry in time of wild west). By the military authors of that time, at the moment when Serbian Empire collapsed under the pressure of Ottomans, Serbian cavalry was regarded as best cavalry that ever existed on Earth. At least, dying Serbian Empire contributed to the rise of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Serbs didn`t suffer for nothing. Poles were good learners and up to the challenge, proved to be worthy to acquire best cavalry doctrine presented to them as gift from the old core of Sarmatia, from the Dinaric mountains on Balkan, along the Danube river. Those Serbian cavalryman that came in Poland to intruduce winged cavalry doctrine were called Racowie by Poles, greatly respected and by common folk in Poland were recognized as heavenly ancestral Sarmatian warriors.

Anyway, those were truly huge Serbian communities. So huge that in Poland and in Ukraine of that time, real new Serbian states were formed, while ancestral Serbian lands on Balkan suffered under Ottoman Turkish yoke for the 180-350 years.

Serbs. People from old core. Last bearers of the old original Slavic universal name, ethnic and self-given Sarmatian name (which went thru Greek and Latin transcription). Their blood and bones mark every corner of Slavdom.

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Old 16th August 2014, 22:18
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King who died in battle against Turkey is Władysław III Warneńczyk – Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia.
Thanks for reminding me of this. Władysław was a true King, true nobleman, true Sarmatian. Graet leader. Too bad that he died so young.

Władysław III Warneńczyk was first Slavic rule, in realm between Baltic and Balkan to the Ukraine, after the King Svatolpuk of Great Moravia, who was at the same time recognized ruler of Poles, Ukrainians and Serbs and numerous in between Slavic and today non-Slavic regions and states.

Władysław III of Poland

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Royal title

Latin: Wladislaus Dei gracia Polonie, Hungarie, Dalmacie, Croacie, Rascia (Serbian Grand Principality) etc. rex necnon terrarum Cracouie, Sandomirie, Syradie, Lancicie, Cuyauie, Lithuanie princeps supremus, Pomeranie, Russieque dominus et heres etc.

English: Vladislaus by God's grace king of Poland, Hungary, Dalmatia, Croatia, Rascia (Serbian Grand Principality) and lands of Kraków, Sandomierz, Sieradz, Łęczyca, Kuyavia, Supreme Prince of Lithuania, lord and heir of Pomerania and Ruthenia

Władysław III


Władysław at Battle of Varna


Władysław Warneńczyk

King Wladislaw of Poland gave His honorable life in battle of Varna in attempt to save Southern lands from Ottoman Turkish hordes. During battle, when King`s advancing cavalry was overrun with enemies, the fanatical Turkish assassin Kodza Hazar grab the opportunity and cut off the Wladislaw's head, took it and sent it to his master - the sultan. King`s loyal companion and himself also famous Sibinjanin Janko of Serbia, also known as Janos Hunyadi of Hungary tried to save King`s body at least but, unfortunately failed.

The head of our young King then became a great attraction in the capital of Ottoman empire. Muslim women and children sang songs, danced and praised Allah at the sight of his decapitated head.


Let eternal soul of our King Wladyslaw Warnenczyk rest in peace. His Glory is eternal. Great thanks from us who remembered
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Old 17th August 2014, 00:18
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The EU has certainly experienced a prolonged period of economic stagnation as a result of the botched implementation of the Euro - but to describe the EU as bankrupt in the context of Ukraine is a bit of a joke.
Few articles, older then crisis in Ukraine

This one is related to Slovenia. You know, little federal unit of Yugoslavia that separated from Yugoslavia in order to as fast as possible join to EU. Today, Slovenians cry for Yugoslavia and while their economy live thanks to business with Serbia. >>>

Situation in EU “resembles that in former Yugoslavia”

November 22, 2012 | 17:04 / Tanjug
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LJUBLJANA -- A bitter fight of large EU member states over the EU’s budget slightly resembles relations between republics in the former Yugoslavia, a Slovenian daily writes.
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Germany, France and Great Britain are at odds. As countries that contribute the most to the EU budget they want cuts to be made but on the other hand they are protecting their privileges.
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The harsh reality is that the EU has already failed | Deborah Orr | Comment is free | The Guardian
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Old 17th August 2014, 21:06
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Prvi Glas Srbije 2012 - Nevena Božović - Jutro

Title of song is JUTRO (in Serbian) - MORNING (in English)

Let it be morning of free Sarmatia, of our New Commonwealth

Prvi Glas Srbije 2012 - Nevena Božović - Jutro - YouTube

Nevena Božović - Vidovdan - song dedicated to Svetovid (Vidovdan - June 28 - in Christianize form, day that Serbs dedicate to Svetovid and oldest ancestors fallen in battle against hostile non-Slavs; Kosovo battle (1389) Serbs vs. Turks is especially mentioned)

Nevena Božović - Vidovdan - YouTube
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http://wyborcza.pl/10,82983,16490715...je_guzow_.html
Putin is a loser, but the question is how much we stud bumps and how much our blood hill will drop, but he will lose - says about Russian-Ukrainian conflict former Polish president Lech Walesa. In his opinion, the whole world 'needs to go in this direction as Europe', and the UN or NATO should gather a group that will develop a 'hit for Putin',
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