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Old 9th April 2010, 12:49
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USA - Losing its Global Influence

It is said that the USA, with its ailing economy, is set to lose global influence against a backdrop of emerging new super powers. Political commentators ponder as to who will hold the biggest global influence in the coming years?
I would argue that global power is already firmly established.
Global power is based within the few hundred elite bilionaire oligarch type investors / business owners who currently weild huge influence that their money and power brings:-
1. Buying their influence to supress popular opinion through the ownership of media, or by huge advertising (relating to their products) revenues that their trading organisations bring to media companies cash flow. Thus many media companies reliant on this revenue dare not publish anything embarrassing or critical that could effect this revenue stream.
2. Influence over governments by "buying" or "encouraging" politicians to take decisions favourable to them in order to achieving certain objectives. Also the ongoing threat to individual states to close their manufacturing bases, make workers unemployed, and remove their vast wealth from that country.
3. Their ability to speculate on international exchanges that manipulate global commodity prices to bring about created situations that advantage their polical objectives and further financial gain.

These are the people that will continue to manipulate with greater effect as indebted and unpopular governments get weaker they will become stronger. They will more increasingly impact upon our lives unless action is taken to stop them.
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Old 10th April 2010, 02:07
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Dear Gotno,

I am Ukrainian, grandparents came to the USA early 1900's. I currently live in California.

Our political situation here is such that many of us hate our current president and view him as a socialist trying to destroy our constitution with his progressive/socialist agenda. He will destroy our global influence if left to govern the way he is governing. China already owns more of us than many of us like. Obama and his deceivers keep borrowing money from China. Our country will only get stronger with men and women who believe that our constitution must be followed. I will become an active Tea Party promoter to make sure my grandchildren have the freedoms I have always had.

OUr public schools no longer teach the correct history of our country. OUr kids are taught that government should take care of us. NOT! Many died for the freedom I exercise and I want the government to stay out of my life.
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Old 10th April 2010, 10:35
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Hello Linda!

Your response to this thread does not in my view answer the issues that I raise about global influence, but would seem to be more applicable to my recent thread "The Selfishness of the USA".
If you have seen this thread you will know that I cannot agree with your ideas about President Obama's health care bill.
I am puzzled that you describe yourself "Ukrainian" because your grandfather came from here. Surely you are an American citizen? I am English but now live in Lugansk and I'm wondering if you are like many in my country who are born in Britain but call themselves Pakistani, Indian or whatever and will support "their" team rather than the British team at sports events. My feeling is, that if you prefer the other country " Go and live there!"!
Finally, you do not want the USA government to interfere with your life, well when it comes to the right to carry firearms in public places, I cannot agree with you.
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Old 10th April 2010, 22:15
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Gotno,

You may wonder why USA has lost its influence. It is directly related to what Linda said. Before the USA was seen as free and independent. Now we are on life support from China and US citizens are politically torn as any other country "struggling for democracy".

Take that combined. Why would US keep in influence after its careless spending and the possibility of complete failure?

You see, its all related.

Gotno, who you are is not defined by your citizenship as much as your blood. You can't change your blood. In a match Ukraine vs England, which team would you root for?

Right on Linda, we'll show Obama what change really means.
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Old 11th April 2010, 09:06
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Stepansas and Linda,

Do not blame President Obama for your country's ills. He has not been in power that long and as you say you want democracy, do you not recognise that Obama was elected by a majority, albeit by a small margin. You must not throw the toys out of the pram because your man didn't win.
Your country has suffered the two terms of the most mediocre administration it has ever know, headed by the most appalling and totally incompetent George Bush. His administration has permitted the Multibillionaire elite (investors / bankers and the like) that I refer to in this thread to run riot and enjoy their finest years of growth. They have doubled their personal wealth and influence thanks to their freind George Bush. They have manipulated the American people through biased press and television. You have been been brainwashed through advertising to buy goods that you could only afford through increased indebtness. To exerbate the problem, too many of these acquired goods were imported, which added to your balance of payments problem. You are now mortgaged to the hilt and living beyond your means. If you country continues as it has done over the last decade itr will go bust. Then you, the basic working American man will feel the pain, whilst the "Smart Money" exits stage left with its secure convertible assets to gated habitats in far flung lands, leaving you to pick up the pieces in will what then be a "has been state".
Please wisen up!
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Old 11th April 2010, 09:40
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President Obama has been in power long enough to cause more damage than 8 years of Bush.

I am not suggesting that Obama caused the USA to be the way it is. I am saying that he is taking it to the point of no return.

Your post does nothing but smear Bush. How about your lovely Obama who indirectly gave out millions in bonus' to CEOs and other executives? Ahh, lets overlook that, for he has not been in power long enough. Let us wait to see who gets rich next.
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Old 11th April 2010, 10:27
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Stepansas

I agree with you Obama should not have allowed those CEO's their bonuses in the same way that Bush should not have supported the bankers and hedge fund speculators. But can you not see that this action only supports my thread argument. A weakened government does not dare to take on these people head on for fear of the very consequences of the retaliation that the "Smart Money" is capable of weilding in a fragile economy.
I must advise you that my view of Bush's incompetence is shared throughout western European countries. We were all happy to see him go, and it is interesting to note all of the English speaking Ukrainians I have met share the same opinion. Consider that at a distance, and not subject to daily (Smart Money owned) American TV propoganda, we are able to analyse things more objectively.
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