2009 ~: Defend yourself UKRAINE !!!

[BlueandGold]

I am not a nationalist. I am NOT a socialist or liberal or fascist. I am not Russian or American. Or Chinese. I am a man born in Canada from a good Ukrainian father.
Below is a list of famous quotes over thousands of years, not statists or secularists, or religious fanatics, but from men (for the most part), for YOUR BENEFIT and PROTECTION.

For self defense. Your born right.

But some quotes from Lenin, Stalin [Putin's student], and Hitler are used to be wary from and learn how SELF DEFENSE is IMPORTANT for you and your family's survival. For Ukrainians and other men to remain independent and free from tyranny.

For you, dear Ukraine:

Cicero (Roman Orator in 1 B.C.):
"If our lives are endangered by plots of violence or armed robbers or enemies [KGB: Remember Holodomor], any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right."

Patrick Henry ("Give me liberty or give me death!"):
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approached that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."
--During Virginia's ratification convention, (1788)

Patrick Henry, "The great object is that every man be armed . . . Everyone who is able may have a gun."

V. I. Lenin (Russian Communist dictator - Ukraine's past - PLEASE LEARN from it ...):
"Democracy is indispensable to Socialism.

The goal of Socialism is Communism.
--On advancing Communism:


1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness.

2. Get control of all means of publicity and thereby:

3. Get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities.

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

5. Destroy the peoples faith in their natural leaders by holding up the latter to ridicule, contempt and obloquy.

6. Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

7. Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent.

8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a soft and lenient attitude on the part of the government towards such disorders.

9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless."

Adolf Hitler (German Socialist dictator - Ukraine's past - PLEASE LEARN from it...):
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms . . ."

Joseph Stalin (Russian Communist dictator):
"The people who vote decide nothing! The people who count the vote decide everything." >>> The Orange Revolution put a STOP to this... !!!

Niccolo Machiavelli (16th Century Italian Political Theorist):
"Rome remained free for four hundred years and Sparta eight hundred, although their citizens were armed all that time; other states that have been disarmed have lost their liberties in less than forty years."

Ronald Reagan, "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

Thomas Jefferson:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Quoting 18th Century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764)

Winston Churchill, "Sometimes it is not enough to do our best; we must do what is required." "... Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give it to those who would not."

Malcom X, "I don't even call it violence when it's in self defense; I call it intelligence”

My quote:

If you, a good man, do not defend your freedom, other evil men will take it.

By Nickolas.

The above quotes are for all Kozaks and men of Ukraine to remain free and independent from tyranny.

Remember Holodomor:

[Lvivske]

Originally Posted by BlueandGold

Stalin [Putin's student]

thats chronologically impossible

[stepanstas]

Thanks BlueandGold

[BlueandGold]

Originally Posted by Lvivske

thats chronologically impossible

I suppose Lvivske (May I call you Mr. L?) you mean the KGB don't follow their political masters anymore?
Mind you, if Putin can not read about the 'glory' of Stalin from a Moscow library, he should go to any American university - there are thousands of books on Stalin and Lenin. Or, if he can not read, most Professors will gladly teach the merits of socialism - as will most American public servants. But from Putin's KGB Gang's current aggression towards Georgia, it looks like he is a good follower of Stalin's Soviet model of Empire - with the exception of using capitalism to build better government monopolies or KGB superstructures within government institutions and so-called private companies....Oh yes, Gazprom is a public company isn't it?

Anyway, I truly hope President-Elect Obama understands the message of Lincoln. History is a good teacher for those who can pick roses from the weeds. Knowing, to be sure, each rose has its thorns. As each flower knows to protect itself.

I think President John Adams and President Reagan's message for Americans and President Yushchenko, for all Kozaks in the world, fit our times better than President Lincoln. Unless the USA is on a path to Civil War.

Nonetheless, I believe many NATO member states, and those about to join NATO, will watch the future President of the USA and his Clinton team carefully. So will the KGB - students of Stalin or not.

Isn't Putin KGB?

[BlueandGold]

Originally Posted by stepanstas

Thanks BlueandGold

You are very welcome stepanstas.

It's good to grow your own food. To buy or sell your food. To give away your food - as your choice, and to protect your food.

It's a healthy lifestyle.