The new bloody war is ripening at back seat of Europe!

[BlueandGold]

Originally Posted by MichaelB_PL

The majority of these mass murders was done by the UPA.

As for rules of war, both nations (Russians and Ukrainians) have a rather "rich" history in terms of atrocities and war crimes of different kinds.


As for the Georgians and Ossetians, I think that the main issue here is that it would be in the interest of both Ossetians and Georgians to make some kind of agreement, some kind of peace - but it would be against the interests of Moscow.

The reason for which an Ossetian-Georgian agreement was not reached is IMO that the Ossetian leaders are 100% dependent on Moscow.

In Polish we have a phrase "bledne kolo" which literally means "futile circle" and it means a situation in which a problem is a cause for itself and is magnifying - in case of South Ossetia, the Ossetian-Georgian conflict was largely caused by the Ossetian dependence on Moscow (otherwise they would reach some kind of agreement with the Georgians), but at the same time the conflict with Georgians make them depend on Moscow even more, now they are becoming more and more "addicted" to Russian patronage.

South Ossetia needs energy and food. Georgia needs energy and food. We all do...
But energy does not require Russian gas and the tyranny connected to doing business with Moscow.

A healthy orange requires only the sun.

[nickcsadler]

A healthy orange requires only the sun........ and water and good soil.. I seem to remember one of your posts where you said you weren`t a nationalist.. me thinks you were a bit dilussional.. if not a nationalist definitely VERY anti Russian.. I suspect even if Russia saved the World from a tyrant you would still say they were wrong to have fought the tyrany as it wasn`t their fight!!! what about all the battles other countries have fought and indeed are still fighting... ie Iraq.. Afghanistan which if you remember Russia was involved in but actually withdrew from...

[BlueandGold]

Originally Posted by nickcsadler

A healthy orange requires only the sun........ and water and good soil.. I seem to remember one of your posts where you said you weren`t a nationalist.. me thinks you were a bit dilussional.. if not a nationalist definitely VERY anti Russian.. I suspect even if Russia saved the World from a tyrant you would still say they were wrong to have fought the tyrany as it wasn`t their fight!!! what about all the battles other countries have fought and indeed are still fighting... ie Iraq.. Afghanistan which if you remember Russia was involved in but actually withdrew from...

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