President Yushchenko in Canada

[sjoyce]

Hi Kathy: I am not sure if you have received an email or not, but the Alberta Ukrainian genealogy society is planning on documenting many cemetaries and church lands in north east Alberta beginning in June. I could forward the e-mail to you if you like.

You must be thrilled your g great grandfathers home is in the village. I hope Mr. Yushchenko enjoyed his time there.

[Max_the_Highlander]

I hope it was good chance for Canadian Ukrainians to touch the present-day life of Ukraine, to see one of our leaders, to shake his hand... also I hope this will draw the attention to current momentum of Ukraine life instead of long historic reflections and classic culture.

Yushchenko instead of Shevchenko, TNMK, Green Gray and Tartak against the folk songs of Kvitka... this road is more funny and modern.

[Kathy]

Originally Posted by Max_the_Highlander

I hope it was good chance for Canadian Ukrainians to touch the present-day life of Ukraine, to see one of our leaders, to shake his hand... also I hope this will draw the attention to current momentum of Ukraine life instead of long historic reflections and classic culture.

Yushchenko instead of Shevchenko, TNMK, Green Gray and Tartak against the folk songs of Kvitka... this road is more funny and modern.

Sorry, Max, but to me, they are empty. The only current artist I don't find as empty is Andrij Danilko. I enjoy the satire of VV, but the music doesn't touch me. I could say the same about some Western artists.

I know what you are saying, but you are off base because you've made some inaccurate assumptions.

[Max_the_Highlander]

Sorry Kathy but this music is empty for you because you never heard it.

Archaics as Kvitka songs may be beautiful but it is still archaics and just. Even Beatles are archaics now, in 21 century.

Question is - what is content?

Folk, romances - this everything is about relations in villages and cities in 18-19 centuries. Lost and gone. A kind of empty museum.

Modern music reflects the modern life so it's more "loaded" as for me.

Music from stage sounds better then museum music.

[Kathy]

"Modern" does not always mean "better".

Music is either good or bad. The examples you gave were all mediocre, and I'm being generous in that description. The examples you provided - 2 wannabe hip hop groups (a genre which is not even indigenous but to add insult to injury, a "sound" stolen/copied from about a thousand other mediocre American artists, rather than something created from within their souls, or, at the very least, an imitation of a hip hop genius, such as Eminem/Dr Dre/Outkast) and a "pop rock" sound that is also like a hundred other groups over the past 3 decades was without inspiration. Empty is empty.

Folk music interests me because it is genuine. Ukrainian folk music is often unique. As for romance, there is a radio station from Kyiv called Shanson that plays nothing but those empty romances. My husband doesn't like the "romantic genre" sound, but to me, it is something different - it is pretty much a "European sound", not exclusively Ukrainian.

You are still a young man; I am sorry if romance vis a vis relations is an "empty museum". Perhaps life is more difficult in Ukraine than you present here?

Do you know why Ruslana won Eurovision? One was the "look". But the other reason was the "freshness" of her music, which to most European ears, was new and unheard. Yeah, it was based on that archaic folk music. Yet, somehow, even based on those archaic museum pieces, it was interesting.

You know, when I hear Beethoven, or Tchaikovsky, or Bach, it still moves me. Even though I've heard most of those pieces hundreds of times. And, even if they are museum pieces.

[Max_the_Highlander]

Actually I consider Ruslana as modern music... she sings with black rappers btw, in her last hit "The Moon Of Dreams".

Andrew Danilko last time works more for Europe and Russia... that's why his music lost the national traits and seems as mix of old-fashioned European disco with sickly-sweet Rissian pop.

Tartak and Tantsi Na Maidani Kongo are the cool and fresh mix of rap and hip-hop with Ukrainian folk, sound and language.

Kathy, when you begin to talk about I'm so young I automatically imagine old lady in rolling armchair with knitting...

[Kathy]

Actually I consider Ruslana as modern music... he sings with black rappers btw, in her last hit "The Moon Of Dreams".

A lot of her "sound" is derived from folk music.

Andrew Danilko last time works more for Europe and Russia... that's why his music lost the national traits and seems as mix of old-fashioned European disco with sickly-sweet Rissian pop.

It is not the sound I like. It is the brilliant satire.

Tartak and Tantsi Na Maidani Kongo are the cool and fresh mix of rap and hip-hop with Ukrainian folk, sound and language.

Sorry, disagree. Their sound is a rip off of an American genre. Nothing new or genuine.

Kathy, when you begin to talk about I'm so young I automatically imagine old lady in rolling armchair with knitting...

HAHA. I wish I could knit. (I think you mean a rocking chair).