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Old 21st May 2008, 03:02
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Hillary has through all of her married life used her maiden name, now when she wants to be President she decides to use her married name. I kind of think there's a lot of disrespect there cause she is using a name to suit her purpose.
Hillary Rodham changed her name to Hillary Clinton when Bill Clinton ran for office. Initially, she did not, but she was criticized, so she changed it. She went back to Hillary Rodham Clinton on her run for the senate.

Obama if I remember correctly was brought up in Indonesia. I may be wrong and will stand corrected if I am.

He moved there when his mother remarried his Indonesian stepfather. He was 6 years old and moved back to Hawaii when he was 10. His Grandfather's friend had Obama admitted on a scholarship to a well known Hawaiin prep school, so that was why he went back. His mother also divorced his stepfather, so she returned a few months after Obama started school.

McCain or whatever his name is will probably just follow GWBs policies. Not sure if thats a good thing or not.

On the war, yes. On the economy? Don't know. McCain has a very famous temper, and is not well regarded by his military compatriots.

If Hilary wins the Presidency there is nothing to stop the same thing happening again as they did in Bills terms. Bill was the president who sent more military off to do things than any other president. Many people seem to forget Bill sent people to Iraq as well.Anyway just thought I would share my thoughts.[/quote]

True. And to bomb Serbia. Hillary Clinton has also threatened to nuke Iran and insulted Putin.
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Old 21st May 2008, 04:14
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Kathy,

I think at this point me continuing to reply to all of your comments would be pointless since we have our opinions.

Just a few things though.

"{Kathy} Yes, but he was referring to a particular time, and a particular incident. His Grandmother doesn't even leave her apartment now."

He still said "is" and not "was".

Kathy, Don't you notice how much Hillary is winning right now? Something changed. I bet most other states changed their opinions aswell.

Finally, this may seem like loser talk, but i am completely honest. I do not think it is right to declare a nominee with these numbers. The delegates are about 100 diffence between the two. That is really, really close. When polls come in that close, i dont think you can call that victory. I think that at this point there should be no nominee and have all three of them run in Nov.

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StormAU,

Not sure what the name thing really means. Is it significant?

As I mentioned earlier, all the candinates at this point (too bad Kucinich is no longer here) are not good. The least we can do is not make things worse. Obama will make things much worse.

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V-G,

Thanks for being my spell checker. I do not have the time to check each and every word since i usually write really long posts. But its funny how you judge others and dont see yourself.

"Latly, "i" should be capitalized.
^ I guess your spellchecker has a virus.

And to get back to point, Go Hillary (the best we got now)
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Old 21st May 2008, 05:19
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Hillary Rodham changed her name to Hillary Clinton when Bill Clinton ran for office. Initially, she did not, but she was criticized, so she changed it. She went back to Hillary Rodham Clinton on her run for the senate.
So she did it for political gain which to me makes her a complete political tart.

I knew there was something about Obama. From an Aussie perspective, don't know how much it really means when it is all said and done, but Obama is the better of 3 evils.

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True. And to bomb Serbia. Hillary Clinton has also threatened to nuke Iran and insulted Putin.
Hillary has insulted a few people, not very good form for a woman (no I'm not picking on women just Hillary) who wants to be the most powerful person in the world. I think Bill liked Yeltsin, it looked that way on the tv anyway, but I don't think he trusted anyone. I think her Iran comment was just a stupid off the cuff remark to gain brownie points with voters. I would hope she isn't really that stupid that she would actually seriously consider such a thing.

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Don't you notice how much Hillary is winning right now? Something changed. I bet most other states changed their opinions aswell.
This might get me in trouble. Take a look at the demographics of the states where she started to turn things around. What is the major ethnicity in these states? It most certainly isn't anything other than Anglo-Saxon.

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StormAU,

Not sure what the name thing really means. Is it significant?
AU is Australia, I'm an Aussie, lol. Storm is one of 3 nicknames I use on Internet forums. One of the others is about to die a horrible and painful death, only kidding with the dramatics. So I have reverted to my old faithful Storm which had already been taken on this site and added the AU to it so I could still use it.

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As I mentioned earlier, all the candinates at this point (too bad Kucinich is no longer here) are not good. The least we can do is not make things worse. Obama will make things much worse.
I'm just an Aussie observer ok but I fail to see how Obama could make it any worse. America looks like it is suffering badly anyway. Hillary has already had the chance to make a difference and couldn't make it work. McCain just looks like a puppet to most non Americans south of the equator so it looks like he isn't going to pull America out of the doledrums to well, plus he is a political dinosour. Obama at least looks like he is new blood with new ideas and appears to be making an attempt to encourage Americans to work together. Hillary just makes racial slurs.
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Old 21st May 2008, 12:02
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Storm,

I believe you are saying that white working class voters are going for Hillary. If so, this is true. Just like black voters are going for Obama. This was not a race campaing, but Obama turned it into one within the past few months.

And about the media, they are really not being fair on Hillary. She gets no air time and just because the anchors are for Obama they don't even mention Hillary.

Storm, its okay to be an obeserver but i personally do not like your observations. First off, Hillary is not racial. The only things she says are things that articles and news say. Secondly, Obama is new blood. Too new. He honestly does not know anything. All the other candidates know that they will not be able to do a lot. This is not a dictatorship and not everything is controlled by the president. Obama however does not know that. He still thinks he can change the world which is really not possible.

He will not win. If Hillary wont stop him, McCain will.
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Old 21st May 2008, 15:36
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V-G,

Thanks for being my spell checker. I do not have the time to check each and every word since i usually write really long posts. But its funny how you judge others and dont see yourself.

"Latly, "i" should be capitalized.
^ I guess your spellchecker has a virus.

And to get back to point, Go Hillary (the best we got now)
"its" funny? Shouldn't it be it's funny? I think for a person who has such keen interest in keeping the forums away from garbage, you should at least bother to proof read your "really long" posts.

Your reference to "funny" is lost by me, I can certainly see it being ironic if I pointed out a spelling error in your post while making one in mine. Did I make such error? Or are you referring to the "i" in bold? A smart man like you should have been able to deduce that I used bold to highlight YOUR mistakes.


Just to keep your highness happy, Stepan, here is a quote:
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WASHINGTON (FinalCall.com) - Despite Sen. Barack Obama’s surprising double-digit victory over Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) in the North Carolina presidential primary and her narrow victory in Indiana, Sen. Clinton continues to cling to the diminishing possibility that she can somehow win the Democratic presidential nomination.
Clinton urged to quit to avoid hurting Dem Party
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Old 21st May 2008, 15:49
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Living in Ukraine, we have not such extended detailed observations of Obama/Clinton battle, our TV gives only short reports about primaries.

Nevertheless, I clearly remember the rostrum of Obama and that bold slogan:"CHANGE. We can believe in".

Does someone believe in magic words? I do. Becouse word "change" made the favourite from loser and attracted to Obama people who logically have to hate and escape him.

The word "change" however works for him as magic. It seems so many people in America want that change desperately and so they agree even for Obama and wild dreams of his father, if he will give them that drug-like "change".

Can we believe in?
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Old 21st May 2008, 17:33
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Max, why do you have this compulsive need to suck up Stepan? You two should get a room . My problem with your "argument" is that once you confess that you don't know much you can't go on and make a crappy philosophical hypothesis.

As far as "change" goes, most people oppose it, but in the USA with the recession and other current problems, smart people see no bright light at the end of the tunnel. Change is finally a good thing, there is nothing magical about it.
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