Will Obama be the President and why?

[StormAU]

Step, I respect your opinion, I just don't agree with all of it. It is a good discussion with you though.

is5512, my apologies for misreading your post, I'll say one thing, your a little out of line being such a smart alec. I deal with kids for a living, I joined this forum to talk to adults. If you don't want to discuss something with me like an adult then just ignore me.

Originally Posted by is5512

And Who Cares what the "majority" (according to the pollsters -- something else I have experience as and contempt for) are saying. I'll pass on the reference to your family.

You don't care about polsters, well lets make one thing clear its the poles that will decide who is your next president, its the majority who decides who is your next president. Right or wrong you do care otherwise you wouldn't be in such a mood about it.

Originally Posted by is5512

I have no objection whatsoever discussing the election *especially* to get the perspective of a Ukrainian...that's why I'm at "Ukraine.com" as opposed to "someothercountryicouldcarelessabout.com".

Hmmm tell me something, How many Aussie's have died fighting with American military? way to many if America thinks like you do.

Anyway is5512, your not the only person here I have discussed this with.

Originally Posted by is5512

What is insulting is someone making blanket statements like "the current President has done nothing for the working person" and "Americans hold in high esteem people <with the implication: politicians> with drug problems" and the implication that we need a change in leadership to help make us "great" again. Yeah. The experts have spoken.

Re-read my post, as quickly or slowly as you feel you need to to get it right, I said the last 3 or 4 Presidents.

Originally Posted by StormAU

Traditionally American's don't trust "establishment" They kicked the Brits out remember cause the "establishment" wasn't giving them a fair go. If indeed Obama isn't "establishment" that can only play into his favour especially when for the last 3 or 4 Presidents the "establishment" has done very little for the "common" people.

Tell me something, what are you thoughts about the American health care system? What do you think should be done for the people who fall in between the pay for yourself and the we'll pay for you groups. I know quite a few and they are working people and they struggle when it comes to paying anything medical.

My implication was Americans hold in high esteem many people with many problems not just what you are calling drugs.

Originally Posted by StormAU

So what? really Bill Clinton had sex with a woman that wasn't his wife got caught out about it and lied to the American people. So many of the people that are "held in high esteem" in AMerica have drug habits of one sort or another.

Like I said if you don't want to discuss it like an adult with me, then just ignore me in this topic.

[is5512]

Originally Posted by StormAU

... your a little out of line being such a smart alec...

Just curious: at what level in the Australian "educational system" do they teach about contractions (specifically "your vs you're"). Or is that, like "staying calm," an elective course?

Originally Posted by StormAU

lets make one thing clear its the poles that will decide who is your next president

Oh drat. Now I have to visit Poland.com to get the results of the election.

Originally Posted by StormAU

How many Aussie's have died fighting with American military? way to many if America thinks like you do.

Yes, we all think the same way, dress the same way, and look the same. It wasn't that way before George Bush, but we got used to it. And perhaps if they'd consider fighting on the same side as the American military as opposed to *with* American military, they'd be better off.

Originally Posted by Storm AU

Tell me something, what are you thoughts about the American health care system? What do you think should be done for the people who fall in between the pay for yourself and the we'll pay for you groups. I know quite a few and they are working people and they struggle when it comes to paying anything medical.

A-HA! A legitimate question. Start a thread on that (better yet: a thread comparing the Ukrainian health care system -- the Ukraine is why I and perhaps many others are here on this forum -- with other systems) and perhaps there might be lively participation. But hopefully no smart-alecs aloud in you're thread.

[bm-21Lemko]

In my opinion socialized medicine does not work. Doctors are already busy and making them take care of everyone would not work at all. People who are diagnosed with terminal illnesses and cannot get treated in their country come to ours.

In the military, we use socialized medicine and it works to an extent.

[V-G]

Originally Posted by is5512

Just curious: at what level in the Australian "educational system" do they teach about contractions (specifically "your vs you're"). Or is that, like "staying calm," an elective course?



Oh drat. Now I have to visit Poland.com to get the results of the election.

IS5512, thanks! This was mighty funny to read (albeit at StormAU's expense). You might appreciate this joke then:
-Why do they call it a check at the bank, why not a Polish?

Now back to the original programming

[Kathy]

Originally Posted by bm-21Lemko

In my opinion socialized medicine does not work. Doctors are already busy and making them take care of everyone would not work at all. People who are diagnosed with terminal illnesses and cannot get treated in their country come to ours.

That is not accurate. In Canada, which does have what I assume you would consider "socialized medicine", physicians are paid by fee for service. There is a shortage of physicians, but that is not the result of the medical system, but rather, faculties of medicine cutting their enrolments in the 1990's.

Nobody here is denied treatment for terminal illness. The system works extremely well for those that are very ill. Where it falls down is in treating those who need treatment but are not severely ill - things like hip replacements, knee surgery, etc.

[Kathy]

Obama as You've Never Known Him!

[Max_the_Highlander]

I just read the another Obama's agitation stuff. I clearly see three columns:

1) Economical improvement.

2) Troop withdrawal.

3) Universal healthcare system.

Three candidated talk about economical improverment, two about withdrawal, two about national healthcare.

What does make him original and give the right to proclame the change from capital letter and play with revolutionary motives?

Everything is so hackneyed.

That's hilarious but first of all he is just pagiarist. Nothing more then new execution of old unimplemented ideas. I know the national healthcare is discussed in US almost a hundred of years.

The things can be done by other candidates as well, they repeat the same ideas, even McCain may recall the troops if it will rise his ranking.