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Old 22nd May 2008, 11:47
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Kathy I respect your opinion but I dont think we need to discuss the V-G in this political topic - isn't it too big honor? Let's talk about more significant people I only hope you will use your wisdom and influence to prevent him from endless brutal attacks on everything which smells like Ukraine.

As about me so I'm not so young and then I have friends in Russia who are quite normal people and never expressed humiliating ideas about Ukrainians (not common trend though). So in certain case the individual psychopathy may be much stronger factor.

I hope we can close this theme.

Let's finally get back to Obama... you state he is organic part of democratic party and his pool is loaded by Bill Clinton's people. But I think Hilary reflects the Clinton family ideology much better then any guys from "yesterday from Kenya" families. She is anyway closer to Bill and in fact her rule will be the rule of their dinasty.

Then I still don't understand which "changes" of Obama blunted vigilance of more balanced American society. As for me his rule will be a kind of revolt when afroamericans, latinos and mexicans will get power over old good "white protestant society".

It's very steady feeling.

Btw, I noticed he uses hidden motives of revolution in his agitations. Do you remember the Che Guevara, Latin American revolutioner? Some of Obama posters and agitation stuff reminded me those posters and T-shirts with "ardent Che".

I even though his team passed such cool opportunity. Just imagine, the haughty Obama in beret and slogan... "Che Obama".
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Old 22nd May 2008, 12:29
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Then I still don't understand which "changes" of Obama blunted vigilance of more balanced American society. As for me his rule will be a kind of revolt when afroamericans, latinos and mexicans will get power over old good "white protestant society".
And some people think it isn't about race.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 12:50
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And some people think it isn't about race.
Very interesting, I'd like to hear your opinion - what is that about?

Short note: some people may see tomorrow different things.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 13:21
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Very interesting, I'd like to hear your opinion - what is that about?

Short note: some people may see tomorrow different things.
Max, if I were voting in the election based on what I see and hear I would be voting Obama. Not because he is not
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old good "white protestant society"
and therefore different to what people think should hold the office of President but because people like Hillary and McCain are political dinosaurs who keep rehashing things and try to make it look new. Americans should vote on conscience not on race. When all is said and done its the governing party and congress who decide policy, the President is but one person and is but one vote in a two party political system. Now think about this, will Hillary who has gone out of her way to insult people in the international community be a good President who is careful to project a good international image for America? Same question for Obama. Now remember Obama is already international, he has lived in other countries, he knows what it is like to be looked down upon because he is different. Same question for McCain.

Another question to ask all of them. How are they as President going to pull a fractured nation together? Forget about external influences. I don't care what pastor says, I don;t care about what Bill says, I don't care about what GWB says, these are the candidate for the Presidency of the US. I would want to know what are they as individuals going to do? Remember a happy nation has a better chance of prospering than an unhappy nation and it doesn't like America is a happy nation atm.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 15:33
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Remember a happy nation has a better chance of prospering than an unhappy nation and it doesn't like America is a happy nation atm.
This is what troubles me. There are always happy and unhappy people in every society. It's healthy when the happy ones make up the majority. When quantity of unhappy ones overocomes the quantity of happy ones, this makes the background for social revolution.

Of course, we can see some traits of crisis in US. War, economical recession - this everythin is due to clumsy GWB. OK but is this everything forever or deadly? There were much bigger crisises in America but they were overcame via normal work and normal reforms.

I just wonder why do so many people think these problems need to be solved through the race revolution?
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I just wonder why do so many people think these problems need to be solved through the race revolution?
I understand and sort of agree with much of what you said until you include race. Why does the colour of a persons skin make him better or worse at the job he wants to do? It doesn't and it never will.
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Of course, we can see some traits of crisis in US. War, economical recession - this everythin is due to clumsy GWB.

I just wonder why do so many people think these problems need to be solved through the race revolution?
Actually there was enough growth in the 4th quarter that the U.S. is not in a recession. There is inflation though.

Races represent votes, by appealing to them.
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