tymoshenko

[Max_the_Highlander]

Oh eah... the big guy. He is Peter Poroshenko, the orange oligarch, owner of the "Roshen" concern, "5 Channel" TV, etc. Yes, he is one of the closest Yushchenko's comrades though he is not so deep in politics now.

He is from personal Yushchenko's guards, I guess. He had big disagreements with current Our Ukraine administration so I think he is one who awaits for brand-new political party.

[stepanstas]

He owns Channel 5?

Wow. Interesting.

He seemed educated enough to speak and stand up to people.

I hope they work something out.

[Stirlitz]

Originally Posted by stepanstas

She gets them done. She is better then Yanukovich.

Apart from [her] rhetorics I do not see what she has actually done over the first 100 days of being in power.

Prices are 1.5 times as high as in 2007, that is the only thing I see for sure

[Max_the_Highlander]

He owns Channel 5?

And not only, he has much more, tens of enterprises (let the Kathy see whom she was fighting with)... And did you really think Victor has not sponsors?

Oh he is really OK with this.

Yes, sometimes it's wise to change weaker details on hardened ones.

Many people around him are made from steel so they deserve something better... something new.

[stepanstas]

A lot going on right now.

The worst thing is right now that the people can not agree on things.

Stirlitz, honestly how much can change these days. You must realize it is hard to change things. After all how much did Yuschenko change (thats why so many people lost hope in him).

As you see in the current events we together cannot agree on anything.

Its not a half way split, its just a split on almost all issues.

Max, I suppose that Porochenko is one of the few who did things legit?

[Stirlitz]

Originally Posted by stepanstas

Stirlitz, honestly how much can change these days. You must realize it is hard to change things. After all how much did Yuschenko change (thats why so many people lost hope in him).

There is a saying in Russian and probably in Ukrainian that you may know. Some private parts of a bad dancer are the reason for poor performance. She had been eager to become a prime minister, well, OK, let’s give her a chance and see. Now that she has been I do not see any tangible results but a lot of problems exactly over the recent months. I am sure that another 100 days will not change anything. And then you will say again ‘it is hard to change anything’. Why aspire for power then if you cannot do anything good?

FYI, I used to be her supporter.

[stepanstas]

Stirlitz,

Yes, It is hard to change things in our current position. You know what, she did not change much. Well, actually i think she unified people a little, but thats beyond the point.

Things will change eventually, but noone can say when. Even though we have 2 good people on top, there are hundreds (if not thousands) more on the bottom that cancel that out.

So, to answer you question. Right now change can not be done easily, so why vote?

For dignaty, for trust, for hope, and lightly speaking for no change. Let me explain.

It is better to not have change then to have change in a negative outcome.

And of course from the choices you have seen, I would rather keep the Ukrainian language, culture, and independance then to give it up to some russian supporter who wants to basically go back under their control.