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Old 14th January 2000, 02:13
ayman_fawzy8433 ayman_fawzy8433 is offline
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dear lilly
i haye the pleasure to write this letter to you and i would like to thank you for your
kind reply.
if the egyptain ancient history is really one of yuor avocations then i could send you many more books about it if you send me your p.o.box number at the city where you live .
and maybe i could send you a free invitation
for you.your husband and all of your small familly to visit egypt on the next summer.
i agree with you that egypt and yugoslavia
wereallways (and i think stell )good friends
i have read many more about the relationship
between nasser and the yugoslavian miracle
....((tito))
and the economic and political mircles wich
have done underthe genius successful leadershipof mr./tito have achievedis considered a global successful turn point and
i want to tell you that there is no forces
relying on iron and fire or relying on armed forces can do anything in front of the yugoslavian spiritual forces.
so"my dear friend lilly i hope that you can agree with me that thepolitical independence
is not every thing .... it maybe something
but cultural and economic independence
is every thing.
i wish you a happy prosperouse life .
yours faithfully
ayman
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Old 14th January 2000, 13:58
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Dear Ayman...thank you for your generous offer, but I must decline. You seem like a gentleman of quality and intellect.~smile~

A country cannot successfully survive by economic independence; you are tied with the world. Domestic economy is one thing, but no country can survive soley on it.Some have tried for a short duration, but inevitably went into decline.

In this global economy, nothing can remain isolated. To sustain the economic job base at a premium, you need exports and imports, foreign investments et al. Domestic markets would be oversaturated. Because of technology, countries' economies and industrial bases can produce in a few months what they need for a year for their domestic market. The rest has to be exported/traded to
keep a positive balance of trade.

There are a few Eastern bloc countries that might be able to do it, because there is so much need for domestic product, and after it is pacified, they would need to export for economic balance.

The USA is vieing for economic independence by heavy foreign investments and ownership (much like the Japanese). i.e. Importing and exporting from foreign countries in which the US owns the companies/businesses. I am not up on this subject too much, so I welcome anyone to clarify this a little better.

May the wind be at your back, dear sir.

LillyNomad
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Old 14th January 2000, 16:30
ayman_fawzy8433 ayman_fawzy8433 is offline
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dear lilly
you maybe misunderstode me when i told you about the economic independence.
offcourse there is no country does not need
export and import and the foreign investments
because there no socity can produce all of his needs from the agriculturaland industrial productsso"they should open there marketsfor the foreign productsand they should do their best efforts to open the other foreignmarket for their own productsto make the balance of tradeand make a more of job opportunities
.
that is a basic role for all of us no diffrent between the socialist or capitalist countries .
even russia during the marxist age they were export and import and there were an economic war between thiem and u.s.a during the cold war and maybe untill now.
so i was mean thatnolonger do wars aimat seizingor occupying the lands of other nations but the wars aim nowadays at seizing and occupyingthe mind and the spirits of the human beings living in other countriesand i mean that the war of the futur will be the economic war.
look at what had happend to yugoslavia after the n.a.t.o attack....it was an economic war
and nato covered it by protection of the
people of kosovo.
and look at whatis going in russia ....
iam sorrey to say that they are going from bad to worse nowadays.because they traied to follow the american way of life and they forget that they have a diffrent cultur .a diffrent history and the most important...
they have a diffrent habits and traditions.
and they forget that can not give theim any usifull things because the american govrnment do not like russia
can you imagine what could happend if you put
your salary of this month between the hands of your enemy??????!!!!!!!
i hope you understand now what i mean by the aconomic independence.
iam so sorrey because iam talking too much but i have not finished yet .
so waiting for my next e.mails
with my best wishes iam
yours faithfully
ayman
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Old 14th January 2000, 18:45
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Ayman,

you said alot. Good to hear your point of view.

In reading your post - I think that physical war have been largely suppressed but other wars are still raging on other levels.

However, I guess - if we have a choice, then the later is best, because as long as you have a few essentials then you can be as happy as anybody.

Good point...
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Old 14th January 2000, 18:47
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Ayman,

you said alot. Good to hear your point of view.

In reading your post - I think that physical war have been largely suppressed but other wars are still raging on other levels.

However, I guess - if we have a choice, then the later is best, because as long as you have a few essentials then you can be as happy as anybody.

Good point...
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Old 15th January 2000, 01:47
ayman_fawzy8433 ayman_fawzy8433 is offline
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dear philip
thank you for your reply
yes philip a phyical war have been suppressed
or how do you see the dirty war of the n.a.t.o against serbia????
and yes again you are right there are other wars are still raging onother levels.......
look at what is going on russia and the undeclaration war against iraq.
and for the other levels of wars look what is going on the world by the islamic terorists in algeria and sudan in africa
but i donot care with all of these wars because i think in my mind that the wars of the futur are the economic wars
do you know what is going on seattlet?
but in fact if you back with your memory to the wars of the 20th cetur you find that the most of thiem caused by an economic resons
but there were always a political or social
cover fo it but in the futur there will be no need to make any cover for it .
but here you are wrong philip....
if i have the choice i think that the futur is better and i will tell you why on my next e.mails.
but i want to ask you just one question please .... do you know boris berezovsky and
anatoly tchopice and what they have done in
russia ????????????!!!!!!!!
and finaly thank you very much again
best regards
ayman
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Old 15th January 2000, 17:12
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All I know is that countries sport 2 types of relationships, miliatry and economic.

You can be an ally with a country on one hand and at the same time treat them totaly unscrupulously in a fight to gain more/better trade. In fact, it seems your allies are the first ones to do these things.

These two conditions mix though. If a countries wealth depends on your economic success then nesessity dictates that they will do what they can in times of trouble to see you through. If you are not needed then... the beat goes on...

The current situation where countries join forces to punish another is something else though. This is definately a type of war and it shows there are many ways to hurt a country.

It doesn't really work on dictators because they don't really care about the people and they are generally too proud and stupid, at any rate. But then again, I can't think of an example where economic sanctions have ever worked effectivally.

I think the trade wars are happening as they should. It is just a pitty that this phenominon is too big for governments to handle (Ie. the power of corporate giants have more pull then governments). The problem for me here is ecological. They just are too big and too annonymus to care about the effect thay have on the world.


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