Ukrainian girls

[davidinkent]

I read with interest the threads about men wanting to meet Ukrainian girls and then complaining that they seem to be just after money. First a few questions. Why do they think that a beautiful, young Ukrainian girl would automatically love a balding, fat elderly western. Lets get real. I have been to Ukraine many times and have some very good friends there. The men are normal, hard working people and not ugly vodka drinking layabouts as sometimes described. Why do they think that if they can't get a girl in there own country that they can just go online or to Kiev and end up with a Ukrainian girl. This to me is an insult to all the beautiful intelligent girls in that country. I was very fortunate that I went to that country with the Royal navy and met some lovely people who became true friends and through this and a lot of hard work met a beautiful Ukrainian girl. I then found the travelling and my inability to grasp the Ukrainian language caused this relationship to faulter. If you go online to meet a girl from any Eastern European country then I think you run the risk of getting a girl that is trying to improve her financial situation (let's face it there are millions of girls all over the world with the same thoughts) and who can blame her. So after all this I would like to say. Great board and best wishes to everyone and I sincerely hope you find in life all that you desire and through treating everyone with kindness and respect you should succeed.

[CameoJoey]

Hi,

Well it's a strange thing to see men falling all over the dream of a Ukraine girl but I also think that the education level in this subject is not as simple as many descibe it.
Many western men are married happily to Ukraine women and have children,happy lives..etc.. It just seems there are many who are not educated on the subject and tend to feel it may be a DREAM come true due to failures in previous relationships etc...
Many men feel that without changing themselves and the history they have that somehow the eastern woman will make it easier..lol
Scammers are large in Ukraine and agencies are still growing at high rates so one must be warry and look for that favorite phrase..(RED FLAG). Too bad red flags are ignored many times and education on this subject costs the victim heartbreak as well as monetary hardship.
I would fall short of condemning a search for an eastern woman but at the same time I would caution a person to not under-estimate an eastern woman and surely never over-estimate one either because there are many examples of extreme character flaws on both side of these ponds.
Having friends is good and being friendly is great. I've never had a problem in eastern countries and don't fit the mold you may want to convey here. At the same time fitting the mold is okay because wherever a person is from it's okay to be from that place and it's also okay to be proud of that fact.
It seems sometimes Europeans tend to look at the desperado for financial gain and the desperado obliges. The desperado see's in the end the true nature of the beast while all the same the beast has always been that way because survival and greed is key.
As long at the standard of living is good for the person who attempts these processes of marriage and dating and he has a pre-nuptual as well and intelligence ofn protection of assets then there is little the woman can get from him in the end. She will end up returning home in many cases and he venture will be limited due to what she returns to and how she falls back into place.
Yes it's a tedious venture and those who plan logically with extreme worst case scenario methods in place should be fine. It's kind of like an investment of the heart and wallet and the heart will heal but will the wallet. If planned with a good heart and a strong sense of economics there should always be a parachute ready to deploy in a fair and secure manner.

Camster

[Samerikindasira]

I became very depressed after the loss of my mother under tragic circumstances. I felt very lonely and I felt that nobody could fill the void left by this death. Then ,one of my cousins suggested that I join the penpal organization and find a friend.I joined the club but left for Ireland.In the meantime, letters from all over the world was being sent to my address.

The first one was from a girl in U.S.A. I responded to all letters. As time went on,I was getting fewer and fewer letters. But this girl from U.S.A. continued writing. It seems that we had so much in common, although we came from 2 different continents,we were of different races and religions.This was the only person that was writing to me
after 2 years.

She then invited me to visit her in the U.S.A. It took me a long time to accept the invitation. I did not tell that I would be coming to visit her. I decided to give her a surprise. Anyway,my main intention was to visit my relatives in England and then visit my friend.

Anyway, I eventually, landed in her city and gave her a call at 9 pm. She was really shocked! Anyway, she visited
me at a motel where I was staying.Coincidentally, that motal was owned by her parent's friend who gave me an excellent deal- the rent was very low and the food was free.

My friend took me around the Lake Michigan area- what a paradise. I studied this area at school but I never thought that one day I would touching its waters.She introduced me to her family and her brother took to me very easily.Her mother also I am told was impressed with my demeanour and the use of English language. Her father ,according to her accounts was a bit worried that his daughter's heart might be captured by a foreigner. To me he seemed very friendly but I did see that he was a disciplinarian.

I went to their house several times and joined them for meals.At that time my wife wasn't working as she was afflicted by depression.But,she had money saved over the years as a result of working at her college while studying. She would not accept any money for the travelling costs.Often,she would buy me gifts and take me out. She turned down all money that I offered.

I admired many of her traits: a very quiet personality,did not drink or smoke,was a vegetarian,liked all animals,especially cats and dogs,gave generously to charity etc. Having the same traits, how can one not admire her?

I left for S.Africa to continue my career as a teacher.We
kept in touch with each other.Then I invited her to visit my family.(My parents were dead) I had four married sisters and nephews and nieces,uncles and aunts, and cousins who were thrilled to see her. I had not mentioned anything about marriage but all of them seemed to suggest this. After
three months, she decided to return and asked me to go back with her- of course,this meant marriage. We were married
in the U.S.A. and have lived about 45 miles from her place of birth.

In 2006, we would be celebrating 20 years of marriage.There are no children but we have 3 cats who are treated like our children.We are still very close to each other.We did have our problems because both of us have very strong views in many areas especially when it comes to politics. But,we
cannot do without each other.We are both very monagomous
in a country where extramarital affairs are frighteningly
common.

I hope that many of you would find penpals in other countries- and who knows you could be writing a similar story in the forum.

To my wife and me,race,color,religion,nationality,money etc.
do not matter. What matters is SINCERE LOVE.