Funny meaning of the names

[bm-21Lemko]

It actually more common than none for western ukrainians to have polish and german in their ancestry.

[bm-21Lemko]

Originally Posted by Zbyszek

I did not quite understand the spelling of this village name?

Is it Yablonka? (derived from an apple yabl'ko).

Please give me the written name again.

One of my great grandparents was born in yablonka, and the other in Jubloika. I guess jubloika is another name for yablonka.

Then they grew up in Pekelnik which is not far away from yobonka.

Jubloika must be yabl'ko. I know that this area is in the Targ region.

Is Liptchek - Lipczek? One was slovak and the other polish.

Lemko, have you tried to read History section of Ukraine.com in search of Lemko topic

I haven't found one. why?

Thanks for your help Zbyszek.

[Zbyszek]

Originally Posted by bm-21Lemko

One of my great grandparents was born in yablonka, and the other in Jubloika. I guess jubloika is another name for yablonka.

Then they grew up in Pekelnik which is not far away from yobonka.

Jubloika must be yabl'ko. I know that this area is in the Targ region.

Is Liptchek - Lipczek? One was slovak and the other polish.
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Thanks for your help Zbyszek.

Yes Lemko, I easily located Yablonka (Polish spelling is Jabłonka, Slovak is Jablunka). I was once in Jablonka on my way to Hunagry via Slovakia). I also easily found Piekielnik [another funny name relating to hell of rather a hellish man!].
Jablonka county, placed near Orava border lake, used to be a little disputed region between Poland and Slovakia and now there are still a few Slovaks living there and many more Poles on the Slovak and Czech side (like in former Duchy of Cieszyn/Tesin). The Polish-Slovak relations used to be generally very friendly and now a border has rather only a symbolic/historic meaning. The languages are very similar.
Lipcek is rather a Slovak name; I think but the border shifted north and south through history so you never guess the real place background. I remember I once noticed a little place labeled in two languages as Beheryv/Beherov (written in Cyrrilic, surely Ukrainian/Lemko/Ruthenian) on my way from Slovakia to Poland, near Bardeyov (Polish name Bardiów).


Please help yourself and find the following posts. There are also nested links there to more other posts you may find interesting.
Ruthenian or Lemki?

[one more advice - if you would like to see the Polish characters correctly, please change the Internet Explorer Coding to Central European: View>Coding]

[bm-21Lemko]

Yes you are absolutely correct in your one post, i too believe the most western ukrainina dialects are heavily influenced in Polish.

2 reasons, Poland Lithuanian Common-wealth and the Austro-hungarian Empire. Thats a seperation between the rest of the Ukrainians for 300 years. They use polish syntax.

Another question, so eastern slovak and polish in yablonka can be understood? I heard it was a goral dialect?

Another question, My great grandfather (lemko) was born and raised in a village named sukowate - sukovate in southern poland close to Ukraine. Do you know what happened to it? Also do you know was there a greek catholic church there and if you remember the name?

Thanks for your help, I'm trying to learn polish, but your alphabet is hard.

[Zbyszek]

Originally Posted by bm-21Lemko

Yes you are absolutely correct in your one post, i too believe the most western ukrainina dialects are heavily influenced in Polish.

2 reasons, Poland Lithuanian Common-wealth and the Austro-hungarian Empire. Thats a seperation between the rest of the Ukrainians for 300 years. They use polish syntax.

Another question, so eastern slovak and polish in yablonka can be understood? I heard it was a goral dialect?

Another question, My great grandfather (lemko) was born and raised in a village named sukowate - sukovate in southern poland close to Ukraine. Do you know what happened to it? Also do you know was there a greek catholic church there and if you remember the name?

Thanks for your help, I'm trying to learn polish, but your alphabet is hard.

Believe me Vasyl, all three languages: Polish, Slovak and Ukrainian are close one to another and it is basically possible to follow a simple converstion without interpreter. Local dialects like mountaineer's (góralski) language can make it more difficult. My aunt, a woman with primary education only, who came to Western Ukraine from Central Poland before WWII was able to effectively communiucate with the local Ukrainians of Rovno surroundings and make many friends there!
People on both side of PL-SL border have no problems with communication. The sad things is that local dialects shrink quickly and they are on the verge of extinction. Blame TV, radio etc. on it.
Sukowate is a sad story. The village was depopulated and destroyed during the infamous postwar military action Wisla 1947. You can find the details in:
Podkarpacki Portal Turystyczny -
Sorry, in Polish. It is up-to-date, detailed Polish tourist guide reference describing a bicycle ride in beautiful areas around Baligrod (dookola Baligrodu).
Yes, I can personally confirm it - these areas are plain beautiful.

[bm-21Lemko]

ok that is what i heard. Just making sure. Thanks