Ukrainian language

[Comosicus]

Not just in connection with this item, but anyway...
What dou you think about this:
http://www.panslavia.com

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Fun ?

P.S. Just a mention:
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[Zbyszek]

Originally posted by Serhii
It is funny, but true - indeed. I think you can recognize every native speaker by her intonation , even more - what part of country he/she is from ( as Zbyszek mentioned ). If you only knew how difficult is for us not English speaking guys understand and follow American intonation !
I am from Central Ukraine - Dnipropetrovs'k. Pryvit z Ukrajiny !

Both Polish and Ukrainian are strongly regional. Unfortunately, radio and TV kill regional dialects very quickly. I am old enough to remember lovely rural Polish which differed considerably from the language used in towns. My family roots trace back to a little place located between Warsaw and Lublin. My aunt, who moved to Ukraine right after WWI [Western Ukraine was a part of Polish state before WWII] from this place and had a farm there, never complained of any difficulty in understanding her rural neighbours near RСwne/Rovno. She must have been a good mixer because she was a godmother of a few Ukrainian kids in spite of religious difference.
There is also a subtle difference in the language spoken in big cities like Warsaw and Cracow and I can feel it when elder Cracovians speak. It involves both intoination and choice of some characteristic words.
Serhii, does rural Ukrainian differ much from the city language?


Slovio - it is curious but I think people should rather concentrate on synthetic language based on English, while removing its major difficulties.

[big-daddy]

Originally posted by Serhii

I am from Central Ukraine - Dnipropetrovs'k. Pryvit z Ukrajiny !

I'm a Kyyivlianyn and in a month I'll be back home.

I didn't know they spoke Ukrainian in Dnipropetrovs'k I have an aunt there.



...does rural Ukrainian differ much from the city language?

Until recently, I'd guess 90s, people in the cities almost completely spoke Russian. Someone speaking Ukrainian would stand out like a black man at a KKK meeting .
They would just be dismissed as the "village people" by the city folk. I'm the 80s-90s child and it's because of my parents I speak the language, not the school, not the Kyyiv life.

The Ukrainian spoken in the cities now is a sophisticated literary language, not rural. I'm not sure, but I'd guess village people would have more instances of surzhyk (mixed Russian-Ukrainian), but again it depends where you go.



I don't think Slovia would pick up, but who knows.

[Serhii]

It is obviously that you are Kijevlianin ( not Kyjanyn ).
I think you are correct if speaking about such cities as Donetsk, Luhans, etc. , but please never do it about rest of Ukraine. Even your Kiev is let us say a little bit antoher than you try to prove.

[Serhii]

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-Both Polish and Ukrainian are strongly regional. Unfortunately, radio and TV kill regional dialects very quickly. ...

Serhii, does rural Ukrainian differ much from the city language?

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Yes Zbyszku, it differs very much , let's say should differ.
It is painful indeed to watch how qickly all differences disappeare. Our languages will strong , nice and attractive till they preserve all dialects and their regional beauty.
Who are we without it - I do not like such perspective at all.

[big-daddy]

Originally posted by Serhii
It is obviously that you are Kijevlianin ( not Kyjanyn ).

Kyyevlianyn is not "hramotno"?
I think you're right.
This is embarassing, usually I'm the one who points Rus. words in Ukr. language. You are correct - I am Kyyanyn.

Even your Kiev is let us say a little bit antoher than you try to prove.

I didn't catch the meaning of this. What do you mean?
(That it's still rusiys'komovne misto? I don't disagree)


PS. I can't think of the last time Dnipro Dnipropetrovs'k had a good team. Are they still in Vyshcha Liga? (Chy Pershiy? )