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Quotes

THOUGHTS ON FORGIVING

Unforgiveness yokes one to his foe.

Kabir: Forgiveness is a game only saints play.

Nondualists, those accepting the unified field theory of physics,
believe GOD is the only Doer, the only Actor. Therefore
nondualists must forgive GOD.

Jesus: Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

Bible: Judge not lest ye be judged

Sai Baba: The actor who slaps you on stage waits behind
the curtain to congratulate you on your performance.

Jesus: Love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you.

Course In Miracles: The holiest ground in creation is that where 2 former opponents have forgiven each other. P

J Myzkowski: My former enemy was a mirror who revealed
the dirt upon my face. P

Kabir: The saint helped the scorpion over and over again
and the scorpion each time returned a sting. Some said
"do you not know it is the nature of the scorpion to sting?"
and the saint replied "it is my nature to save."

J Freundschuh: When I'm having trouble forgiving someone
I mentally regress him to baby state.

Sri Yukteswar: The vanished lives of all are filled with
many shames. Therefore do not judge.

April Baer: Forgiveness is a form of cleaning out closets P

Nancy Taylor: Unforgiveness wastes energy as extra weight
is carried around. Unforgiveness requires the energy
waste of repressing.

Maria Susie: (re the Bible that God tosses our sins into the deep sea) God has posted a no fishing sign in His deep waters.

Patty: Do not look into the rearview mirror. (all who look
back are turned into pillars of bitter salt)

Sai Baba: You may blame me for the bad which passes through
you if you praise me for the good. (God is the only Doer)

Gopal: It helps to understand in why people do bad things
to remember that only a tiny slice of the pie of their
divinity was brought into this incarnation with them.

Sai Baba: Not in the morning pond does the lion wash his blood.

The Buddha: The more evil done to you the more good do in return. (Buddha's purity was so great that those who plotted to kill him had their plans recoil upon themselves, not by his actions, but by the law of spiritual physics.)

Evangelical tv pastor John Hagee: Did someone harm you in 1962.. let go of it! Control and ride the horses of anger.
(may Hagee be aligned to Jesus' teachings on pacifism)

Wayne Dyer: If you squeeze an orange, orange juice comes out.
Nothing can come out of you that is not in you. If when you
are pressured, anger comes out, it is not the fault of the person
who pressured. P

Jan Freundschuh: (To a former foe) Now I see you as a pure rushing fountain ..adorned only by your own sweet splashes.

D Calleia: I went to sleep praying for an opponent, someone who
had repeatedly harmed me. That night God came to me in her
form.. and gave me a creative new way to draw my graphs.

JBO: So are you saying that you are getting the senior citizen
discount on your sins and the reduced weekend excursion rate
on your transgressions?

Saint Of Shirdi: It is the fruitladen tree which attracts a shower of stones.

S Anthony Grafio: To hold someone in past thoughts is to imprison him.

L Bertsch: Resentment turns a face slap into an ulcer.

A Thakur: My uncle received the anger of a great saint. He
considered it a blessing.

Alanon (passed through SC) Others' opinions of me are not my
business

Jessamyn West:
It is very easy to forgive others their mistakes; it takes more grit and gumption to forgive them for having witnessed your own.

Poster: Until past images are released, one is a blocked tv screen.

K. S. Hoare: The woman was not miraculously healed until she forgave the horse who had thrown her.
(*perhaps all horses need to forgive their human oppressors)

John C Lehman Jr: Sometimes it is not necessary the problem
to solve but change the angle of vision and the problem dissolves.

K. S. Hoare: Part of her heart was tied off by God..
that the rest might grow larger.

Mahatma Gandhi: An eye for an eye makes everyone blind.
(Jesus came to make the blind see.)

Unknown: To understand all is to forgive all.

Josh Billings: There is no revenge so complete as forgiveness.

Ali Hazrat: If you overpower your enemy, then pardon him by way of thankfulness to Allah, for being able to subdue him.

Ausonious: Forgive many things in others; nothing in yourself.

Alexander Pope: To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Henry Ward Beecher:
I can forgive, but I cannot forget, is only another way of saying, I will not forgive. Forgiveness ought to be like a cancelled note--torn in two, and burned up, so that it never can be shown against one.

Dorothee Deluzy:
It is easier to forgive an enemy than a friend.

Starseed: You do not have enough data to assign value to
any action.

Sai Baba: God stands outside all mathematical equations
no matter how long.. ready to render a plus or minus,
multiplication or division.

Jesus: Love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you.

Course In Miracles: The holiest ground in creation is
that where 2 former opponents have forgiven each other. P

Bible: Judge not lest ye be judged.

Kabir: Forgiveness is a game only saints play.

Few earthlings want to be released immediately
from our body prisons , nor let the bird of life soar
out from the rib cage

P means paraphrased




PRAYER

Jesus: Whatsoever you ask the Father in My name it will be granted.

Kierkegaard: "The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays."

Sai Baba: "I give you what you want so that
you will want what I have to give."




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THOMAS AQUINAS
"God answered the prayers of animals. Thomas Aquinas had to reincarnate as an animal rights activist after teaching that animals have no souls."

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LEADERSHIP

Grizzard, Lewis "Life is like a dogsled team. If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes. (Perhaps Cy Burnett)




PEACE


Peace Pilgrim: Inner peace gives endless energy.

Shanti is shakti. Peace is energy.

Jesus: My peace I give you. My peace I leave with you.

Jesus: Blessed are the peacemakers.

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
--Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II-

(the Nuremberg Trials were an illegal violent dangerous precedent... God now wipe out their vengeful example)

JONAH 1 lay not upon us innocent blood:

http://www.poetsagainstthewar.org




POSITIVE THOUGHT

Isaiah 66: 9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

Kriyananda: My master's visualizations were so powerful
their condensation into matter was mere signature.

Sarah Pere: When the mind is open and awake
then do the gods partake.. to fill the spaces in between
the dreamer and his dream

George Bernard Shaw: Thought transcends matter (quoted
by Barbra Streisand)

Bible: Seek ye first the Kingdom of GOD and everything will
be added unto you.

Goethe: When you make a commitment, angels conspire
to bring it into reality (paraphrased)

Job 22: 28 Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.

Isaiah 53: With His stripes we are healed

Clifford Bias: You have the power to clothe any thought in
matter.

John C Lehman: My father's will was so powerful it was
a police escort into reality.

Romans 10: Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord
shall be saved.

With God all things are possible.

All things work to the good

Psalm 51:7
wash me, and I will be whiter than snow.

Unknown: What the mind can conceive, the soul can achieve

Jesus: Whatsoever you ask the Father in My name it shall
be granted.

Sai Baba: God gives you what you want so that you will
want what God has to give.

Isaiah 35: For waters shall break forth in the wilderness, and streams in the desert; the burning sand shall become a pool, and the thirsty ground springs of water




HARM NO BEING

Genesis l:29 Behold I have given you herbyielding seed. To you it shall be for meat. http://www.all-creatures.org

Quran: There is no beast on earth nor bird which flieth..but the same is a people like unto you. All God's creatures are God's family. http://www.egroups.com/messages/drbashiruddin/1

Buddha: To become vegetarian is to step into the stream which leads to nirvana. http://www.plumvillage.org

Bhagavad Gita: One is dearest to God who has no enemies among the living beings, who is nonviolent to all creatures. (Sanskrit word ahimsa means nonharm to all life)

Agnostic: Jonah survived...
...because the whale was vegetarian?

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Wayne Dyer: Can you see the beauty in a cockroach?



Isaiah: He that slayeth an ox is as he that killeth a human. (for 40 or 50 quotes from the Bible go to the Spirit file no. 8)
http://www.christianveg.com http://www.jesusveg.com


Mahavira, founder of the Jain religion: May all that have life be delivered from suffering.

Siuh, Malaysian woman lab technician: If I follow Kwon Yin (Chinese Divine Mother Deity of Mercy) I guess I should become vegetarian.

Upton Sinclair in The Jungle (written after his investigation of Hormel in Austin Minnesota): The shriek was followed by another, louder and yet more agonizing..for once started upon that journey, the hog never came back. One by one the men hooked up the hogs and slit their throats. There was a line of hogs with squeals and lifeblood ebbing away.. until at last each vanished into a huge vat of boiling water (some still alive). The hogs were so innocent. They came so very trustingly. They were so very human in their protests. They had done nothing to deserve it.

Oprah Winfrey, being sued by Amarillo cattle ranchers for saying: "I'm stopped. I'll never eat another burger". (paraphrased)

Harriet Beecher Stowe: We should remember in our dealings with animals that they are a sacred trust to us from our heavenly Father. They are dumb and cannot speak for themselves.

Ralph Nader on ABC re the 13 states with veggie libel laws (such as Texas Cattlemen's Beef Assn is trying to use against Oprah): These laws are designed to chill free speech.
http://www.citizenworks.org

Howard Lyman, former cattle rancher: (paraphrased from his appearances on more than l show) 100,000 cows in the U.S. are alive at night and dead in the morning. These cows on the ground are ground into feed, making their fellows not only carnivores but cannibals. Europe after Mad Cows' Disease has banned this practice. The U.S has not yet.
http://www.madcowboy.com

Leonardo Da Vinci: One day the world will look upon research upon animals as it now looks upon research on human beings.
http://spot.acorn.net/fruitarian (DaVinci a fruitarian)

Steven Spielberg screenwriter Koepp: Humans are the only hunters who kill when not hungry.

Lester Brown World Watch Inst. annual State of the World: Since 1950 demand for lumber (trees) has doubled. Fossil fuel consumption has quadrupled. China's desire for grain-fed beef.. (adds even more pressure)

Jan Yager, editor of Grove Press: Once I was fishing and caught the hook in the fish's eye. That was the last time I ate a killed creature (paraphrased). http://www.janyager.com

Morton Downey: Oprah has power because Oprah is believable. People do not believe the beef industry. Shouldn't we be concerned about the first amendment rather than protecting powerful agribusiness?

Carolyn O'Neil of CNN: Is this big bad beef against one of America's cultural heroes?


Mayor Koch, now Judge Koch: Tree killing is arborcide.

Mrs. Greenthumb: Plant in the city.


If China were to double its egg production the grain of 15 developing nations would be required

Jeremy Rifkin of Beyond Beef: paraphrased: The world's environment can no longer handle beef.

KCBS helicopter pilot: The physical fitness man (paid by the meat lobby) would supposedly swim miles with a boat rope in his teeth.. jump out of the water in San Francisco and say "I owe it all to red meat". But I saw that he did not put the rope in his mouth until he was in sight of the shore.

John Denver: on the Larry King Show (paraphrased): Many things made me become a vegetarian, among them. the higher food yield as a solution to world hunger.

Jim R: Hunters are to the arms industry what smokers are to the tobacco industry. Smokers get a nicotine rush. Hunters get an adrenalin rush from killing a living being. (This does not include those hunters who kill only to feed their families or themselves.)

Ali MacGraw: Cruelty to animals can become violence to humans. (HSUS psa)



Maynard Clark (info@vegetarian.org): Irradiation does not protect consumers from contaminated meat. It kills only selected pathogens. ..It does nothing to hardy pathogens such as the hepatitis virus or to those inside a large slab of meat or to those added during subsequent processing.

Fox News Jan 15th Kathy Wolff: A Univ of NC study linked hot dogs to childhood leukemia.



Buddhist phrenologist in an unsolicited reading of writer: Your short ear lobes indicate many lives as a carnivore.

Catherine Crier, former Texas prosecutor quoting Robin Williams: Hitchcock said he viewed actors as cattle.. but some were free range.

Pat Robertson who has quoted Isaiah 65 on 700 Club: Mercy trumps justice. (CBN no longer takes animal flesh ads)

Dennis Weaver: 40 years ago on the set of Gunsmoke I read the book The Holy Science. Since then I have not eaten meat.

Semantha Eggar: paraphrased: Dr. Dolittle is a reluctant but dedicated vegetarian. Being around all the animals in the film made me one too.

Governor Jerry Brown of California, son of a former governor of California: Check out my web site, wtp.org, to see what fast food did to 2 people in England. (C Span: Dec 22nd) (or check http://www.McSpotlight.com)

Cleveland Amory on NPR Dec 4th: The National Park Service shot a mule in the face. He survived but had trouble swallowing and often food came out of his nose.




COURSE IN MIRACLES

Course In Miracles, transcribed over 7 years in shorthand
by Helen Schucman, faculty member of Columbia.. She said
she transcribed what a voice dictated to her.. at her convenience.

Helen Schucman:


"Fear is like a lowlying dense dark bank of thunderclouds.
You enter it and find it can not hold the fall of a button.


"Guilt is a sure sign your thinking is unnatural.
*

"What is allpervading can have no opposite."

"Nothing real can be threatened.
Nothing unreal exists.



"The message is first for the messenger.

When I defend myself I am attacked.




THOUGHTS ON ANTS

Rhonda Fleming (Christian) "I cannot kill an ant."
James Coburn: (Buddhist) never killed any insect
Vedas: Jada Bharat was drafted to carry with others the
palanquin of the king. He stepped to avoid ants in such
a way that his actions were erratic and he was released from
compulosry duty.
Peter Burwash, professional tennis player and vegetarian
saw a column of ants come onto the court and crawl toward
the net. He lost the match because he would not harm them.

Father Ron Lengwin, KDKA host:
Adam's apple may have been the heart of the first animal
butchered.
Warswa ghetto oncentration camp survivor: The last thing
my father told me before he was taken away to be killed was not to harm the cockroaches who ran along the walls of
our holding area.
JR: At the base of the eyelash
is an invisible mite.
Ask not what your mite can do for you
but what you can do for your mite.
And always remember
mite makes right.




Before he voted
for baby bombing and other
forms of human termination
his specialty
was termite extermination


(God thank You for taking those who kill
out of office today)




William Hartung: Lockheed, Halliburton etc. are not
growth industries. They are death industries
*

How Much Money Did You Make on the War, Daddy? : A Quick and Dirty Guide to War Profiteering in the Bush Administration
by William D. Hartung




TRUTH

He values the truth highly and so employs it sparingly

(paraphrased) Abe Lincoln about a political opponent

quoted by Mark Green in reference to Bush's denial

that the Log Cabin Republicans had endorsed him..

and his denial that Ken Lay had endorsed him over Ann
Richards




PUBLIC SPEAKING FOR LAWYERS

(paraphrased)

If you have the facts, pound the facts.
If you have the law, pound the law.
If you have neither, pound the podium.

(said in reference to the bellicosity of George Bush's
war talk )




If you give an audience a chance they will do half your acting for you. Katherine Hepburn

To keep your character intact you cannot stoop to filthy acts. It makes it easier to stoop the next time. KH




BEAUTY

What Youth deemed crystal, Age finds out was dew.
-Robert Browning-

what is wrong with watching.. a single leaf dancing in the breeze when all the other leaves are very still?
-Krishnamurti-

Bread feeds the body. Flowers feed the soul.
-Koran-


Max Wallace: the family fortune which put 2 Bushes in the White House can be traced directly to the 3rd Reich
Marc Aronson:
You need not seduce her
but you can induce her
(a sentence in a story of his)




War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

- John Stuart Mill



Michael McLaughlin:
"The head never rules the heart but just becomes its partner in crime



Posted by gandalf on 03-14-2004 08:27 PM:

..it is anatomically impossible for humans to lick their own elbow..




Eric Alterman: The war on terrorism was a bait and switch
operation.

(Create the WTC.. steer the people toward violence in
Afghanistan.. then switch to Iraq)




Gandalf, any advanced yogi can lick his or her own elbow

My brain confused Gandalf with
Gadfly


FROM J.R.

"The United States has practiced nuclear blackmail for
many decades."

"A bully is a coward turned inside out."

"Capitalism is glorified institutionalized street crime."

"There's a woman in China having a baby every 6 minutes.
They're trying to find her to stop her."

"At the base of the eyelash is an invisible
mite.
Ask not what your mite can do for you
but what you can do for your mite.
And remember, mite makes right."

"There were miracles long before Christianity."

"Many dictators of the 20th Century were Catholic.. Hitler,
Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, Pinochet."

"In the USA the poor are being criminalized,
the mentally ill are being railroaded."

"When a capitalist society is in a constant state of war
the result is a higher percentage of gay men."


"In the USA the poor are being criminalized,
the mentally ill are being railroaded."



Robert Reich: The 77 million baby boomers are moving
through the population like a pig through a python


:

levels of contamination among some marine mammals are so high that the animals would be classified as hazardous waste sites if they were on land.


A 1998 study by the International Whaling Commission



Vegetarian Health Quotes

wheeler@super.org (Ferrell S. Wheeler)
To: tms@cs.umd.edu


Quotable Quotes

Beyond Beef Campaign
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HEALTH

"If you step back and look at the data, the optimum amount of red meat
you eat should be zero."

-- Walter Willett, M.D., of Brigham and Women's Hospital, director
of a study that found a close correlation between red meat
consumption and colon cancer.

"Usually, the first thing a country does in the course of economic
development is to introduce a lot of livestock. Our data are showing
that this is not a very smart move and the Chinese are listening. They
are realizing that animal-based agriculture is not the way to go.... We
are basically a vegetarian species and should be eating a wide variety
of plant food and minimizing our intake of animal foods....
"Once people start introducing animal products into their diet, that's
when the mischief starts."

-- T. Colin Campbell, Ph.D., of Cornell University, director of a
study of 6,500 Chinese that found a close correlation between
meat consumption and the incidence of heart disease and cancer.

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all
the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile
accidents combined. If beef is your idea of real food for real
people, you'd better live real close to a real good hospital."

-- Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for
Responsible Medicine, Washington, D.C.

"When we kill the animals to eat them, they end up killing us because
their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never
intended for human beings."

-- William C. Roberts, M.D., editor of The American Journal of
Cardiology

"All red meat contains saturated fat. There is no such thing as truly
lean meat. Trimming away the edge ring of fat around a steak really
does not lower the fat content significantly. People who have red meat
(trimmed or untrimmed) as a regular feature of their diets suffer in far
greater numbers from heart attacks and strokes."

-- Michael Klaper, M.D., Medical Director, EarthSave Foundation,
Santa Cruz, California

"The thousands of people who have suffered food poisoning after eating
beef will, no doubt, appreciate that their beef was aesthetically
acceptable, even though it made them ill. Lovely to look at, dangerous
to eat is not a standard that is likely to help beef sales."

-- Carol Tucker Foreman, Assistant Secretary of Agriculture during
the Carter administration, commenting on the inadequacy of the
U.S. Department of Agriculture's Streamlined (Meat) Inspection
System (SIS).

"As happened with tobacco, health warnings about meat eating are
multiplying, and awareness of the environmental effects of meat
production is rising. Just as cigarettes lost their allure, meat is
losing its social cachet in some countries. Food marketers in the
United Kingdom estimate that 2 million people in that country are strict
vegetarians. More important, the number of people limiting meat in
their diets is rising rapidly. An estimated 6 million people in the
United Kingdom dine on meatless meals most of the time."

-- Alan B. Durning and Holly B. Brough, in Taking Stock: Animal
Farming and the Environment, Worldwatch Institute, Washington, D.C.,
1991


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Vegetarian Environment Quotes

http://www.ivu.org
http://www.meatout.org
http://www.pcrm.org

ENVIRONMENT

"An alien ecologist observing... Earth might conclude that cattle is
the dominant animal species in our biosphere."

-- David Hamilton Wright, Ph.D., Emory University biologist

"The impact of countless hooves and mouths over the years has done
more to alter the type of vegetation and land forms of the West than all
the water projects, strip mines, power plants, freeways, and subdivsion
developments combined."

-- Philip Fradkin in Audubon, National Audubon Society, NY, NY

"Most of the public lands in the West, and especially the Southwest,
are what you might call cow burnt. Almost anywhere and everywhere you
go in the American West you find hordes of [cows].... They are a pest
and a plague. They pollute our springs and streams and rivers. They
infest our canyons, valleys, meadows, and forests. They graze off the
native bluestems and grama and bunch grasses, leaving behind jungles of
*****ly pear. They trample down the native forbs and shrubs and cacti.
They spread the exotic cheatgrass, the Russian thistle, and the crested
wheat grass. Weeds. Even when the cattle are not physically present,
you see the dung and the flies and the mud and the dust and the general
destruction. If you don't see it, you'll smell it. The whole American
West stinks of cattle."

-- The late Edward Abbey, conservationist and author, in a speech
before cattlemen at the University of Montana in 1985

"You can buy the land out there now for the same price as a couple of
bottles of beer per acre. When you've got half a million acres and
20,000 head of cattle, you can leave the lousy place and go live in
Paris, Hawaii, Switzerland, or anywhere you choose."

-- American rancher who owns grazing land in the Amazon, describing
the attitude of cattle colonists in the Brazilian rain forest

"We got hooked on grain-fed meat just as we got hooked on gas guzzling
automobiles. Big cars made sense only when oil was cheap; grain-fed
meat makes sense only because the true costs of producing it are not
counted."

-- Frances Moore Lappe', in _Diet for a Small Planet_

"A reduction in beef and other meat consumption is the most potent
single act you can take to halt the destruction of our environment and
preserve our natural resources. Our choices do matter. What's
healthiest for each of us personally is also healthiest for the life
support system of our precious, but wounded planet."

-- John Robbins, author of _Diet for a New America_, and President,
EarthSave Foundation, Santa Cruz, California

HUNGER AND POVERTY

"It seems disingenuous for the intellectual elite of the first world
to dwell on the subject of too many babies being born in the second- and
third-world nations while virtually ignoring the over-population of
cattle and the realities of a food chain that robs the poor of
sustenance to feed the rich a steady diet of grain-fed meat."

-- Jeremy Rifkin, author of _Beyond Beef, The Rise and Fall of the
Cattle Culture_, and President of the Greenhouse Crisis Foundation,
Washington, D.C.

"A meat-fed world now appears a chimera. World grain production has
grown more slowly than population since 1984, and farmers lack new
methods for repeating the gains of the green revolution. Supporting
the world's current population of 5.4 billion people on an
American-style diet would require two-and-ahalf times as much grain as
the world's farmers produce for all purposes. A future world of 8
billion to 14 billion people eating the American ration of 220 grams of
grain-fed meat a day can be nothing but a flight of fancy."

-- Alan B. Durning and Holly Brough, Worldwatch Institute,
Washington, D.C.

"There can be no question that more hunger can be alleviated with a
given quantity of grain by completely eliminating animals [from the food
production process]. About 2,000 pounds of concentrates [grains] must
be supplied to livestock in order to produce enough meat and other
livestock products to support a person for a year, whereas 400 pounds of
grain (corn, wheat, rice, soybeans, etc.) eaten directly will support a
person for a year. Thus, a given quantity of grain eaten directly will
feed 5 times as many people as it will if it is first fed to livestock
and then is eaten indirectly by humans in the form of livestock
products...."

-- M. E. Ensminger, Ph.D., internationally recognized animal
agriculture specialist, former Department of Animal Science Chairman at
Washington State University, currently President of
Consultants-Agriservices, Clovis, California

"Changing eating habits in the North is an important link in the chain
of events needed to create environmentally sustainable development that
meets people's needs. The Beyond Beef campaign is an important step in
that direction."

-- Dr. Walden Bello, Executive Director, Food First/The Institute
for Food and Development Policy, San Francisco, California

"Suppose food _were_ distributed equally. If everyone in the world
ate as Americans do, less than half the _present_ world population could
be fed on the record harvests of 1985 and 1986. Of course, everyone
doesn't have to eat like Americans. About a third of the world grain
harvest -- the staples of the human feeding base -- is fed to animals to
produce eggs, milk, and meat for American-style diets. Wouldn't feeding
that grain directly to people solve the problem? If everyone were
willing to eat an essentially vegetarian diet, that additional grain
would allow perhaps a billion more people to be fed with 1986
production."

-- Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich, authors of _The Population
Explosion_, 1990

"Family farmers are victims of public policy that gives preference to
feeding animals over feeding people. This has encouraged the cheap
grain policy of this nation and has made the Beef Cartel the biggest hog
at the trough."

-- Howard Lyman, Executive Director, Beyond Beef campaign, former
senior lobbyist for the National Farmers Union

ANIMAL SUFFERING

"In my opinion, one of the greatest animal-welfare problems is the
physical abuse of livestock during transportation.... Typical abuses I
have witnessed with alarming frequency are; hitting, beating, use of
badly maintained trucks, jabbing of short objects into animals, and
deliberate cruelty."

-- Temple Grandin, Ph.D., internationally recognized livestock
handling consultant and board member of the meat industry's Livestock
Conservation Institute

"For most humans, especially for those in modern urban and suburban
communities, the most direct form of contact with nonhuman animals is at
meal time: we eat them.... The use and abuse of animals raised for food
far exceeds, in sheer numbers of animals affected, any other kind of
mistreatment."

-- Peter Singer, author of _Animal Liberation_, and professor of
philosophy at Monash University, Melbourne, Australia

"The amount of meat lost each year through careless handling and
brutality would be enough to feed a million Americans for a year."

-- John McFarlane, Executive Director, The Council for Livestock
Protection, a meat industry organization

"I know, in my soul, that to eat a creature who is raised to be eaten,
and who never has a chance to be a real being, is unhealthy. It's
like...you're just eating misery. You're eating a bitter life."

-- Alice Walker, author and poet

"In fact, if one person is unkind to an animal it is considered to be
cruelty, but where a lot of people are unkind to animals, especially in
the name of commerce, the cruelty is condoned and, once large sums of
money are at stake, will be defended to the last by otherwise
intelligent people."

-- Ruth Harrison, author of _Animal Machines_

"Yet saddest of all fates, surely, is to have lost that sense of the
holiness of life altogether; that we commit the blasphemy of bringingmthousands of lives to a cruel and terrifying death or of making those
lives a living death -- and feel nothing."

-- The Right Reverend John Austin Baker, Bishop of Salisbury,
England, commenting on the cruelty of modern animal agriculture

"You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is
concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity."

-- Ralph Waldo Emerson in _Fate_




Pythagoras, Da Vinci, etc

used to be a meat lover. And oh man, how I loved to eat meat! But when I stopped to think about what I was doing (I mean really think, i.e., to reflect deeply on the subject), the remorse was so big that I would get depressed. Luckily, being a vegetarian is much easier and much more fun than I first imagined :-) Urbana, july/2000.

Vegetarian Quotes
"For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love."
Pythagoras, mathematician

"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."
Leonardo da Vinci, artist and scientist

"To a man whose mind is free there is something even more intolerable in the sufferings of animals than in the sufferings of man. For with the latter it is at least admitted that suffering is evil and that the man who causes it is a criminal. But thousands of animals are uselessly butchered every day without a shadow of remorse. If any man were to refer to it, he would be thought ridiculous. And that is the unpardonable crime."
Romain Rolland, author, Nobel Prize 1915

"If a group of beings from another planet were to land on Earth -- beings who considered themselves as superior to you as you feel yourself to be to other animals -- would you concede them the rights over you that you assume over other animals?"
George Bernard Shaw, playwright, Nobel Prize 1925

"What is it that should trace the insuperable line? ...The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?"
Jeremy Bentham, philosopher

"In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought."
Isaac Bashevis Singer, author, Nobel Prize 1978

"Our task must be to free ourselves . . . by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty."
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances of survival for life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."
Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel Prize 1921

"I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being."
Abraham Lincoln, 16th U.S. President

"Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."
Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President

"You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, essayist

"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields."
"What I think about vivisection is that if people admit that they have the right to take or endanger the life of living beings for the benefit of many, there will be no limit to their cruelty."
Leo Tolstoy author

"I cannot fish without falling a little in self-respect...always when I have done I feel it would have been better if I had not fished."
Henry David Thoreau, author

"While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal conditions on this earth?"
"Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research."
George Bernard Shaw

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
"To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being."
Mahatma Gandhi, statesman and philosopher

"I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't...The pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further."
Mark Twain, author

"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."
Thomas Edison, inventor




Fabio Kon
WHERE IS GOD?

Stuart Wilde: God is out playing golf.
Unknown: God is an absentee landlord.
Saint of Shirdi: (God can be likened to) a mother turtle
watching oer her eggs from the opposite bank.

PEACE

Peace Pilgrim: Inner peace gives endless energy.

Shanti is shakti. Peace is energy.



DIFFERENT DRUMMERS

Roger Miller: Some walk in the rain. Others just get wet.

Will Rogers: Why not go out on a limb. That's where the fruit is.



to EZland please translate ni dieu ni maitre for this ignorant one




LOVE

Don Sibel: What comes from the heart touches the heart

Sanyana Roman: What you love is a sign of what you are to do

Tanya Marie: In which of the 4 chambers of the heart does love
lie?

Charles Dickens: The ocean asks for nothing but those who stand by her shores gradually attune themselves to her rhythm.

Sai Baba: Those who ask for love in return are coolies demanding wages. **

DeGourmont: The little girl does not ask return love from her doll. She loves. That is all. **

Lao Tsu: In stillness the muddied water returns to clarity. **

Lao Tsu paraphrased: Water does not force its way. **

St John of the Cross: When the evening of this life comes, we will be judged by love. **

Sai Baba: The most heinous sin is to hurt the heart of another.

** John Joseph Price: Whatever the question, love is the answer.

Sai Baba: All beings are beautiful seen through eyes of love **

Buckminster Fuller: Love is a verb, not a noun. ** **



REVELATION

Albert Einstein: I never came upon any of my discoveries
through the process of rational thinking.

(in his autobiography he said that angels gave him the theory of
relativity in a dream)


FAITH

James Barrie: Birds can fly and we can't because they have
perfect faith. To have faith is to have wings.

Rabindranath Tagore: Faith is the bird that feels the light when the dawn is still dark.



ACCEPTANCE OF ALL

Stuart Wilde: Things you believe are baggage in your life.

Jan F: My mantra should be "I have no opinions."

The unified field of physics.. illustrates there is only One who acts.

http://www.nonduality.com/faq.htm



MANIFESTATION

Unknown: God speaks beings into existence.

Antoine de Sainte-Exupery: A rockpile ceases to be a rockpile
the moment a single man contemplates within him the image
of a cathedral.

Ernest Angley: Authority to heal is given from on high.

Henry David Thoreau: If you have built castles in the air...
put foundations under them



A TIME FOR SILENCE.. A TIME TO SPEAK

Lao Tsu: Those who say do not know. Those who know do not say.

Yukteswar said "would you have me bring My love for You
into the gross realms of speech?"*

*(paraphrased from poster's memory Sri Yukteswar knew His disciple Yogananda wanted to
hear that His master loved Him.)


Empty barrels make the loudest noise.



FEARLESSNESS

Course In Miracles: Fear is a lowlying dense bank of thunderclouds.. you enter it and find it cannot hold the fall
of a button (paraphrased)

Richard Feild: Conquer fear..make a decision.


JOY

Tom Robbins: 80% of all deaths may be suicide (from despair,
ruts, sadness)



ORDER

Hermann Hesse: Chaos demands to be recognized and experienced before letting itself be converted into a new order.


METAMORPHOSIS

John Vance Cheney: The soul would have no rainbows had
the eyes no tears.

ACTION AND INACTION

Bhagavad Gita: The wise see action in inaction
and inaction in action.

Raymond Inmon: Angels whisper to a man when he goes out
for a walk.



PERFECTION

Sanyana Roman: it is an illusion that you do not have what you
want.


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INFINITY

Keep puffing on the bubble until it breaks its confining walls
and becomes the sea of joy.

-Yogananda-


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CHANGE

Dennis Watley (paraphrased) : Each week set 1 day aside
to do something you've always wanted to do.


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HARM NO BEING

Republican Gal: She has so many bones to pick.. she is carnivorous.


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JUSTICE

Bishop Tutu: We seek a restorative justice, not a retributive
justice. (healing not revenge.. mercy not hatred)



BIBLICAL QUOTES
(Interpretations divide. The Spirit Unites. May The Holy Spirit Overshadow.)
Acts 15: Do not eat the meat of strangled animals.
Acts 18: 18 The private vow Paul took, many Biblical scholars believe,
is the Nazarite vow which included besides hair cutting.. abstention from
animal flesh. This Nazarite diet is described in Numbers. This is the vow
that Samson with his great strength took.
Corinthians l: 8,12-13 (Paul) If meat makes my brother stumble I shall
never again eat meat.
Daniel l: Daniel was put in prison by Nebuchadnezzar. He ate only
pulses (beans) for 10 days while others ate flesh. Nebuchadnezzar noticed
that he fared better than the others. Maynard Clark (vrc@tiac.net) and Frank
Hoffman (Veg-Christian@all-creatures.org) make the point
that since all food, not just meat, was sacrificed by Babylonians
to idols, idols were not a factor in their abstention from animal flesh.
Deuteronomy 5: Thou Shalt Not Kill (later versions than the King James
translate this as Thou Shalt Not Murder)
Exodus 20: 13 Thou Shalt Not Kill brought down the mountain
literally Lo Tirtzach.. (this is nonkilling, not nonmurder)
The Biblical command "Thou Shalt Not KIll" which J J Price cites as
a reason to change diet.. is not asterisked "to include humans only".
The Biblical command "Thou Shalt Not Steal" which Kathy Kurtz cites
can be related to not purloining the eggs from chickens nor the
milk from mother cows whose calves are then butchered for veal.
Exodus 16: 31 The desert manna was like coriander seed. (Given
by Reginal Cherry, MD who promotes vegan diet on Trinity Broadcast Net
Exodus: The Israelites did not want the manna that God had provided..
instead they wanted the flesh of quails.
Ezekiel 3 and 4: My body has never been defiled by animal flesh.
Genesis 1:29: Behold I have given you herbyielding seed. To you it shall
be for meat.
Genesis 1: 12 describes the perfection of a world covered with fruit
and nut trees, grape vines and berry bushes
Genesis 2: 4-6 There were no violent storms in the tree covered earth.
The trees were watered by mist.
Genesis 6: Noah was commanded by God to provide vegetarian food in the
ark for people and animals. (The lions drank the milk of cows.)
Genesis 9: 4-5 Flesh shall yet not eat. And surely your blood I will
require at the hands of beasts. (God forgive us all and help us
all to change.)
Hosea 2:28: I will make for you that day a covenant with the wild
animals. I will abolish the bow, the sword, and war from the land. I
will make you lie down in safety.
Isaiah: Isaiah is the prophet who more than any other forecasts the birth
of Jesus. He is also the prophet with the most references to nonviolence
and universal respect for life. Jesus quotes Isaiah's "I delight not
in your blood sacrifices" as He drives the animal killers out of the
temple. Jesus refers to the vegetarian Isaiah more than to any other.
Isaiah: 1: 11: I delight not in the blood of bullocks or of lambs
or of he goats (whereas Isaiah 66 involves not eating pigs..
and Isaiah 65 involves not eating any living thing)
(In some Bible translations the word 'blood' has been removed.)
(In others it is "I delight not in thy blood sacrifices.")
Isaiah 42: He shall break not the bruised reed.
Isaiah 59: We moan sadly like doves.
Isaiah 65: The wolf shall lie down with the lamb.. they shall not hurt nor
destroy in all my holy mountain for the earth shall be full of the
knowledge of the Lord. Many other passages of Isaiah speak of noneating
of animals.
Isaiah 66: 3 He who slays an ox is as he that slays a man.
(Another translation: He who kills a bull is as he who kills a man.)
Isaiah 66: 17: The slain of the Lord shall be many.. they behind the
tree eating swine's flesh.. shall be consumed together.
(There are dozens of references to vineyards, fruit trees, and fruitarian
diet in Isaiah alone.)
Samson's Nazarite vow included eating nothing dead, letting his hair
grow and other injunctions. He violated this vow not only with Delilah
but in eating honey from a hive within the ribs of a desert lion
carcass. He then lost his strength.
Jesus: Whatsoever you have done to these the least of My brethren you
have done unto Me. (Is the least of His brethren.. the birds, the
insects, and the plants?)
The Aramaic Bible (the language Jesus spoke): Zachariah is told
even before the birth of John the Baptist that John is the Spirit
of Elijah and that he will forsake flesh foods. (Thank you Josh)
For information write chochmah36@yahoo.com
Jesus: Come, I shall make you fishers of humankind (and not of
fishes).
Jesus: Ye are whited sepulchres. This is interpreted to mean
those with concern for externals.. while their thoughts are
not holy, those who actions show hypocrisy as well. However
sarcophagus comes from sarx (flesh) and phagus (eater)..
sarcophagus is not only a coffin but a flesheater.
Job 5: You will be in league with the stones of the field and the
beasts of the field shall be at peace with you.
Job 12: 8 Speak to the earth and she will teach thee
(of patience, humility, forgiveness, universal nurturing)
Joel 1: The land mourns the destruction of her plants.
John the Baptist: The Ebionites taught that John the Baptist was
vegetarian. For further information write Pastor Mike Shaw mshaw@gtn.net
John: 3rd Letter of John to Gaius: I pray good health for you.
John: 6: 63 It is the Spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing.
Judges 13: (re Samson) (The breaking of the Nazarite vow {taken by
Jesus, John the Baptist, Paul} was the cause of Samson's downfall)
(Besides abstention from haircutting, the vow of the Nazarites involved
abstention from meat. Paul felt his vow was private. Others were public.)
(Some think that involvement with killing is the toucbing of death
and therefore the touching of a dead thing.)
Leviticus 3: 17 commands to eat no animal fat or animal blood
Many Jewish vegetarians believe it is impossible to drain the blood
out of all the tiny capillaries of the animal, and that therefore
there is no such thing as kosher flesh. (Write
schwartz@postbox.cuny.csi.edu) He will return in February.
Leviticus 11: prohibts the eating of the flesh of rabbits, pigs, shellfish
such as lobsters, clams, shrimp, crabs, hawks, seagulls, camels,
chameleons, flying insects with 4 legs in certain cases, heron, bat,
hoopoe, vulture, stork, cormorant, ibis, marsh hen, pelican, owl, mole,
rat, mouse, lizard, gecko, snail, cud chewers, cloven hoofed (the cow
was observed trying to cleave her hoof to make her safe), eagle, metire,
osprey, falcon, ostrich, kite, raven, rock badger, etc. The reasons include
prevention of food poisoning. E.g., pigs and shellfish will eat the waste
of other creatures (coprophagy).




Alex Chartrand and Albert (LosOrc@aol.com) have both commented on the
Greek word for pickled fish which is opsarian.
If Jesus served pickled fish to His disciples, then the fish was
materialized, not caught.
James Marcus: A re-reading of Genesis indicates that God not only promised
humanity but also all animals and Earth herself that the earth would
never again be flooded.
As Scripture forbids the eating of the flesh of strangled animals, some
interpret this to include fishes, since many die of denial of breath,
through suffocation in nets, throats ripped out by hooks etc.
The Essenes of Galilee were upset by Pharisee animal consumption.
Others say that Jesus materialized the fishes for His apostles in
the post Resurrection meal. There are many interpretations.
In Genesis, the dominion humankind was given over animals.. is not
a justification to eat them... for we are also given dominion over our
biological children. The Greek word from which dominion was translated
is "kratos" as in the Greek word democracy, the rule of the people.
To rule does not mean to kill.
(An increasing number of women are involved in Biblical Equality study
groups .. "thy sons and thy daughters shall prophecy" "I shall pour out
My Spirit upon all flesh" etc.)
Dino De Laurentis' film "The Bible" has Noah on the ark feeding cows' milk
to the tigers and lions aboard.
Jesus by many Biblical scholars is considered to be an Essene, a group
which followed the Nazarite vow of celibacy, and vegetarian
diet. Samson's hair strength was related to his Nazarite vow and Paul
is one of his letters refers to a private vow many consider to have
been Nazarite. The Christian Science Monitor on Feb 25, 98 referred
to Essene vegetarianism in an article on Dead Sea Scroll origins.
There are some who believe that Isaiah 11 means we are not to eat
meat in heaven but may eat it now. Yet some of these who interpret Isaiah
11 to mean heaven, with its descriptions of animals in perfect peace, still
say that animals do not have souls and will not go to heaven.
Jesus: Which of you having an ox in a ditch would not rescue it on
the Sabbath?
Jesus' first communion replaced the Passover lamb's consumption
with the bread and wine (some say grape juice) of communion of the Spirit.
John the Baptist: Some Christians believe that John the Baptist ate
locusts. Others believe that he ate locust beans.. the seed pods of the
locust tree. The historian Josephus says on 2 occasions that John the
Baptist ate no animal flesh. (mshaw@gtn.net) The Greek word for insect
locust is akris and for cakes (bean paste) is enkrius.
The word meat used to be a synonym for food, but is no longer.
The Greek words translated as meat actually mean food as the word
phagy in Luke 8: 55, the word trophe in John 4:8, and the word
bromo in Corinthians 8:8.
If animal flesh is meant in the Bible the Greek word sarx is
used, such as the word sarcophagus.. flesh eater.
Christian Science Monitor: Feb 25, 98: The Dead Sea Scrolls were written
by the Essenes, a vegetarian group.
Some interpret the Isaiah "the wolf shall lie down with the lamb" as
heaven rather than now on earth, but there is nothing in the original
language to indicate that. National Institutes of Health in rather
cruel research has found that cats raised without seeing killing
do not know how to kill.. in other words, even for "carnivores" killing
is learned behavior. Even now, we are reaching closer and closer to
Isaiah daily.
Peter's Vision: Many Christians cite the vision of Peter.. that all
food is clean. Other Christians believe that this vision meant that
Christians should abandon the Jewish dietary laws. Peter himself in Acts
10:28 interprets this vision to mean that he should call no human being common
or unclean. It is true that everything in the universe in some way is
sacred because its source is God.. but there are definite differences
between slaughterhouse food and that from a fragrant orchard. In addition
some Christians believe that Isaiah 65 (the nonviolent paradise)
describes a future time. Yet there are many more who believe that
nonviolent paradise begins with each
of us. Each forkfull we take can be from a butchered animal.. or if we
choose.. from a sunfilled fruit tree.
Paula Fredricksen, author of Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews,
discussed her book on C-Span. She stated that on the day before Passover,
some 40,000 quadrupeds (goats, sheep etc) were hanging upside down
bleeding to death. The floor of Solomon's temple was awash in blood.
(It is for this reason that many Biblical scholars believe that Jesus
overturned the temple tables in divine temper as He quoted Isaiah:
I delight not in your blood sacrifice.)
http://bible.crosswalk.com has an interlinear section which lists
14 Hebrew words for kill: harag, zabach, chalal, tabach, muwth, nakah,
naqaph, qatal, ratsach, shachat, sh@chiytah, sakal. They all have
slightly different meanings. Zabach is more often used about the murder
of sacrificial animals. Some Bibles have turned "Thou Shalt Not Kill"
into "Thou Shalt Not Murder". The Greek as well has many synonyms for
kill which have different meanings.
James Marcus has passed on the research of Willard S. Smith who
in Animals, Birds, and Plants In The Bible wrote that the doe was
never eaten and that the Bible contains no reference to cats, perhaps
as a reaction to the Egyptian worship of cats and death penalty for
harming cats.
In the movie "The Greatest Story Ever Told" in which Max Von Sydow plays
the role of Jesus Christ, the scene of Jesus' anger in the temple is related
to the sacrifice of animals there, and as he overturns tables, he quotes
some of the many passages of Isaiah in regards to not harming animals.
Epiphianus states that Nazarites ate no animal flesh. (mshaw@gtn.net)
Become fishers of men and women. (Leave the fishing boats to others.)
Cleveland Amory before his death advanced the idea that animals have souls.
Once in a debate with a religious official who did not agree, he said
"If they don't, all the more reason to give them a fair shake while they
are here."
The writings of the Ebionites, says Pastor Mike Shaw, indicate
that John the Baptist was a vegetarian.
And others say that Elijay, fed manna by God, was also.
Other Biblical quotes are at http://www.ivu.org/people/quotes/Christ
(Oswald Chambers: To saints nature is sacramental.)
WATER FASTING AND FRUIT JUICE FASTING: Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights.
John The Baptist ate locust beans. Isaiah 58: Is not this the fast that
I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens
and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Is it not
to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are
cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him
(Jesus over and over fulfills the Isaiah prophecies.. and here is the
precursor to the Sermon On The Mount.)
Then shalt thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall
spring forth speedily. Then shalt thou call and the Lord shall answer.
In 1998 Pat Robertson has joined Catholic bishops and Ernest Angley
in calling for fasting. He recommends a. a Daniel fast (vegetarian)
b. juice fast or c. water fast or d. l meal a day fast.. whatever
works best for the individual (rebroadcast March 24th)
There are hundreds of millions who are vegetarian because of religious
belief. Below are vegetarian roots in several religions.
Some Christians think
Jesus was a full vegetarian. Others believe he ate fishes, but abstained
from animal flesh. There is no Biblical indication that he
ever ate the flesh of any Paschal lamb. In addition the founders of
or leaders of Christian sects such as Ellen White for the Seventh Day
Adventists, John Wesley of the Pentecostal movement, St. Francis for
Franciscan friars, General Bramwell Booth of the Salvation Army
promoted vegetarianism for their churches and lived their beliefs..
The following statements are our belief.. our attempt to reach the
truth. We mean no disrespect to anyone.. and invite your dialogue at ab514@
acorn.net about your own sacred beliefs. We ask your forgiveness in stating
that vegetarianism is a better diet. No two people have the same doctrinal
views on every issue. Different sects are like submarine mountain peaks
.. all united in the Waters of Spirit.
A Brazilian Christian stated that 2000 years ago Jesus lived a life of
love. Now, he said, many Christians celebrate this life of love by
slaughtering billions of creatures during the annual holidays.
Again, dear reader, this file is dedicated to you. Thank you for wanding
it to life with your eyelight. We recognize that most of us say what we must
learn. (Pork is not prescribed but proscribed.. in many religions:
Moslem, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Jain, Kwon Yin)
Bogomil was a Bulgarian monk of the 10th Century who was a vegetarian
as were his followers. (Source: Encyclopedia of the Middle Ages by Norman
Cantor)
There are surviving writings or Gospels of many of Jesus'
inner circle, including Mary, Thomas the formerly doubting, and
Philip. Philip's Gospel states that (God never asked for animal
sacrifice) the sacrifice of animals in the OT was often to demons.
Paul also states this.
Sterling North: "We are but the ephemera of the moment, the brief
custodians of redwoods which were ancient when Christ was born."


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VP Al Gore in a debate: When we are given dominion over the earth
as Genesis says, it means 'to take care of'.
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Leviticus 11: prohibts the eating of the flesh of rabbits, pigs, shellfish
such as lobsters, clams, shrimp, crabs, hawks, seagulls, camels,
chameleons, flying insects with 4 legs in certain cases, heron, bat,
hoopoe, vulture, stork, cormorant, ibis, marsh hen, pelican, owl, mole,
rat, mouse, lizard, gecko, snail, cud chewers, cloven hoofed (the cow
was observed trying to cleave her hoof to make her safe), eagle, metire,
osprey, falcon, ostrich, kite, raven, rock badger, etc. The reasons include
prevention of food poisoning. E.g., pigs and shellfish will eat the waste
of other creatures (coprophagy).
Leviticus 17:10 I will set my face against them that eat blood.
Leviticus commands that no dead animal be touched. How is it possible
to rend the flesh of an animal with human teeth in the consumption
of meat and not touch the animal?
Leviticus: Just as Jesus erases Levitical law and prevents the capital
punishment of the adulterous woman (the man was not brought)
He also erases Levitical animal sacrifice law with the Law of Love
Luke 15: is about the 100th lamb. Dr. Bates gave a sermon on this passage
on Sept 13th. Are not all lambs His? Does He not want all His lambs
protected?
Luke 15: 16 The Prodigal son.. the word for what the son ate when
away from his family was keration.. a word for the carob bean or
the fruit of the locust tree.. this was fed to the poor and to pigs
... this "St John's Bread" was fruit and not meat. Historically the
poor have been more vegetarian than the rich. It was said that
King Henry 8th's gout came to a rich man for the poor could not
eat enough meat to have gout.
Malachi l: You have defiled my altars.
Malachi 4: They shall grow fat like calves in stalls. (While this
is intended as a blessing, it is a reminder of veal calves imprisoned
their entire lives in stalls, unable to turn around.)
Mark: The Gospel of Mark makes it clear that when Jesus spoke
of what defiles a person, he was speaking of critical words.
Matthew 4:19 Come I will make you fishers of men (no longer fishers
of fishes).
Matthew: 5:7 Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy.
Matthew 12: 7 Jesus quotes Isaiah more than anyone else.
Jesus quotes
Isaiah's "I desire mercy not sacrifice" and "break not the bruised reed".
Matthew 12: 11 Which of you having a sheep (ox) in a ditch will
not rescue it on the Sabbath?
Matthew 16: 15 The Moody Bible Institute has the translation in
a mail out plaque: Go ye therefore and preach to all creation.
(Other translations say 'the world'). Anthony, revered as a saint
in the Catholic Church, preached to the fishes when humans would
not listen.
Matthew 19: 6 What God hath joined together let no man put asunder.
This is Jesus' comment about marriage.. but God has also
soldered together animals.. and does not want them sundered.
Matthew 21: Jesus overturns the tables where doves are being sold
for sacrifice.. and says 'my house is a house of prayer.. you have
made it a den of plunderers'. The Greek word used is lestes..
which is more correctly translated plunderer or butcher than thief.
(The author of Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews mentions that
before Passover as many as 40,000 animals were hanging upside down
bleeding to death.. and that the temple floor was awash in blood.)
Matthew 23: 27 Jesus says some are like whited sepulchres (sacrcophagi.
(Sepulchre from the interlinear Greek
Testament sarcophagus) (sarc flesh phagy eat: flesheaters)
Therefore Jesus said 'They are whited flesh eaters' Why whited?
Concern with exterior paint and not the interior cleanliness of
the temple. What happens to the body when one eats animals? It
says George Bernard Shaw, friend of General Booth of the Salvation
Army, becomes a grave of those animals.
Jesus states in this passage that the sepulchres are full of dead bones.
Matthew 23: 25 It is interesting that most translations of the Bible
speak of these sarcophagi as being full of dead men's bones whereas
the actual Greek is 'gemousin osteon nekron' which means
' full of dead bones'.
Matthew 25:40 "Whatsoever ye have done to these the least of My
brethren, ye have done unto Me." Are not animals more handicapped
than human beings?
Methusaleh: This longest lived (969 years) of Biblical heroes was
like all pre flooders (antedeluvians) vegetarian. (Jeremiah: The Lord
offends the mind to reveal
the heart) (*Some say that Elijah was the longest lived because he
ascended to heaven without death and, says Jesus, is John The Baptist).
Paul (1 Corin 8: 7-13) Meat commends us not to God.. if meateating
offend my brother.. I will eat no flesh while the earth stands.
(Whole passage sent by QEagle@aol.com Debra)
Paul in Corinthians 6: Your body is a temple of Holy Spirit.
Proverbs 12:10: The righteous man is concerned for his beast.
Proverbs 23:20 Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge
themselves on meat.
Proverbs 31: 8 Open thy mouth for the dumb (voiceless)
Psalm 10: In the secret places he murders the innocent.
Psalm 11: The wicked bend their bow. They make ready their arrow
upon the string.
(Biblical vegetarians include Adam 930 years {we are not given Eve's age}
Seth 912 years Enoch 905 years Canaan 910 years Jacob 962 years
Enoch 2 and Methusaleh 969 years)
Psalm 50: Eat not the flesh of bulls nor the blood of goats.
Psalms: 104: 16-18: The trees of the Lord are watered abundantly.
Psalm 148: Praise the Lord from the deep, you sea monsters (for all God's
creation, not just human beings, do praise).
Revelation 5: All creatures sing the praises of God.. is the gist
of a Revelation 5 passage. If animals can sing God's praises, do they
have souls and a right to life?
Revelation: 7: 3 Hurt not the earth neither the sea nor the trees.
Revelation 9:4 The 5th angel.. says that no living growing tree being
or grass be harmed.


Revelation 11: 2 Olive trees are before the throne of God.
(The rest of the passage is on their not being harmed.)
Rev: 11: 18 (Angels) shall harm those who destroy the earth.
Rev: 12: The earth swallows a river the dragon has sent
against the woman.
Revelation 16: The 2nd bowl poured by the angel turns the seas to
blood. (The red tide is the name given to pfiesteria which kills
fish with the pollution pouring out from Eastern seaboard factory
farms.)
Revelation 22: as quoted by Dr. Reginald Cherry, MD of TBN:
The leaves of the trees are for the healing of nations
(both as herbs and as environmental protectors)
Revelation 22: The tree of life grows by the river of life.
(In the context it is seen that it is a fruit tree.)
Revelation's sign of the beast might be the sign of the slain beast,
the sign advertising places where slain beasts are sold.
Revelation's prophecy of a blood red moon might be related to the red tides
which are causing environmental destruction.Rodney Barker has written
a book called And The Waters Turned To Blood (Simon and Schuster) which
traces the politics in North Carolina and Virginia factory pig and factory
poultry farms' effluent to the massive killing of Atlantic fishes with
pfiesteria. (Some also interpret the blood red moon to mean women angry
about abuse.)
Romans 8: If your meateating offends your brother abstain from it.
Alex Chartrand and Albert (LosOrc@aol.com) have both commented on the
Greek word for pickled fish which is opsarian.
If Jesus served pickled fish to His disciples, then the fish was
materialized, not caught.
James Marcus: A re-reading of Genesis indicates that God not only promised
humanity but also all animals and Earth herself that the earth would
never again be flooded.
As Scripture forbids the eating of the flesh of strangled animals, some
interpret this to include fishes, since many die of denial of breath,
through suffocation in nets, throats ripped out by hooks etc.
The Essenes of Galilee were upset by Pharisee animal consumption.
Others say that Jesus materialized the fishes for His apostles in
the post Resurrection meal. There are many interpretations.
In Genesis, the dominion humankind was given over animals.. is not
a justification to eat them... for we are also given dominion over our
biological children. The Greek word from which dominion was translated
is "kratos" as in the Greek word democracy, the rule of the people.
To rule does not mean to kill.
(An increasing number of women are involved in Biblical Equality study
groups .. "thy sons and thy daughters shall prophecy" "I shall pour out
My Spirit upon all flesh" etc.)
Dino De Laurentis' film "The Bible" has Noah on the ark feeding cows' milk
to the tigers and lions aboard.
Jesus by many Biblical scholars is considered to be an Essene, a group
which followed the Nazarite vow of celibacy, and vegetarian
diet. Samson's hair strength was related to his Nazarite vow and Paul
is one of his letters refers to a private vow many consider to have
been Nazarite. The Christian Science Monitor on Feb 25, 98 referred
to Essene vegetarianism in an article on Dead Sea Scroll origins.
There are some who believe that Isaiah 11 means we are not to eat
meat in heaven but may eat it now. Yet some of these who interpret Isaiah
11 to mean heaven, with its descriptions of animals in perfect peace, still
say that animals do not have souls and will not go to heaven.
Jesus: Which of you having an ox in a ditch would not rescue it on
the Sabbath?
Jesus' first communion replaced the Passover lamb's consumption
with the bread and wine (some say grape juice) of communion of the Spirit.
John the Baptist: Some Christians believe that John the Baptist ate
locusts. Others believe that he ate locust beans.. the seed pods of the
locust tree. The historian Josephus says on 2 occasions that John the
Baptist ate no animal flesh. (mshaw@gtn.net) The Greek word for insect
locust is akris and for cakes (bean paste) is enkrius.
The word meat used to be a synonym for food, but is no longer.
The Greek words translated as meat actually mean food as the word
phagy in Luke 8: 55, the word trophe in John 4:8, and the word
bromo in Corinthians 8:8.
If animal flesh is meant in the Bible the Greek word sarx is
used, such as the word sarcophagus.. flesh eater.
Christian Science Monitor: Feb 25, 98: The Dead Sea Scrolls were written
by the Essenes, a vegetarian group.
Some interpret the Isaiah "the wolf shall lie down with the lamb" as
heaven rather than now on earth, but there is nothing in the original
language to indicate that. National Institutes of Health in rather
cruel research has found that cats raised without seeing killing
do not know how to kill.. in other words, even for "carnivores" killing
is learned behavior. Even now, we are reaching closer and closer to
Isaiah daily.
Peter's Vision: Many Christians cite the vision of Peter.. that all
food is clean. Other Christians believe that this vision meant that
Christians should abandon the Jewish dietary laws. Peter himself in Acts
10:28 interprets this vision to mean that he should call no human being common
or unclean. It is true that everything in the universe in some way is
sacred because its source is God.. but there are definite differences
between slaughterhouse food and that from a fragrant orchard. In addition
some Christians believe that Isaiah 65 (the nonviolent paradise)
describes a future time. Yet there are many more who believe that
nonviolent paradise begins with each
of us. Each forkfull we take can be from a butchered animal.. or if we
choose.. from a sunfilled fruit tree.
Paula Fredricksen, author of Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews,
discussed her book on C-Span. She stated that on the day before Passover,
some 40,000 quadrupeds (goats, sheep etc) were hanging upside down
bleeding to death. The floor of Solomon's temple was awash in blood.
(It is for this reason that many Biblical scholars believe that Jesus
overturned the temple tables in divine temper as He quoted Isaiah:
I delight not in your blood sacrifice.)
http://bible.crosswalk.com has an interlinear section which lists
14 Hebrew words for kill: harag, zabach, chalal, tabach, muwth, nakah,
naqaph, qatal, ratsach, shachat, sh@chiytah, sakal. They all have
slightly different meanings. Zabach is more often used about the murder
of sacrificial animals. Some Bibles have turned "Thou Shalt Not Kill"
into "Thou Shalt Not Murder". The Greek as well has many synonyms for
kill which have different meanings.
James Marcus has passed on the research of Willard S. Smith who
in Animals, Birds, and Plants In The Bible wrote that the doe was
never eaten and that the Bible contains no reference to cats, perhaps
as a reaction to the Egyptian worship of cats and death penalty for
harming cats.
In the movie "The Greatest Story Ever Told" in which Max Von Sydow plays
the role of Jesus Christ, the scene of Jesus' anger in the temple is related
to the sacrifice of animals there, and as he overturns tables, he quotes
some of the many passages of Isaiah in regards to not harming animals.
Epiphianus states that Nazarites ate no animal flesh. (mshaw@gtn.net)
Become fishers of men and women. (Leave the fishing boats to others.)
Cleveland Amory before his death advanced the idea that animals have souls.
Once in a debate with a religious official who did not agree, he said
"If they don't, all the more reason to give them a fair shake while they
are here."
The writings of the Ebionites, says Pastor Mike Shaw, indicate
that John the Baptist was a vegetarian.
And others say that Elijay, fed manna by God, was also.
Other Biblical quotes are at http://www.ivu.org/people/quotes/Christ
(Oswald Chambers: To saints nature is sacramental.)




Revelation 11: 2 Olive trees are before the throne of God.
(The rest of the passage is on their not being harmed.)
Rev: 11: 18 (Angels) shall harm those who destroy the earth.
Rev: 12: The earth swallows a river the dragon has sent
against the woman.
Revelation 16: The 2nd bowl poured by the angel turns the seas to
blood. (The red tide is the name given to pfiesteria which kills
fish with the pollution pouring out from Eastern seaboard factory
farms.)
Revelation 22: as quoted by Dr. Reginald Cherry, MD of TBN:
The leaves of the trees are for the healing of nations
(both as herbs and as environmental protectors)
Revelation 22: The tree of life grows by the river of life.
(In the context it is seen that it is a fruit tree.)
Revelation's sign of the beast might be the sign of the slain beast,
the sign advertising places where slain beasts are sold.
Revelation's prophecy of a blood red moon might be related to the red tides
which are causing environmental destruction.Rodney Barker has written
a book called And The Waters Turned To Blood (Simon and Schuster) which
traces the politics in North Carolina and Virginia factory pig and factory
poultry farms' effluent to the massive killing of Atlantic fishes with
pfiesteria. (Some also interpret the blood red moon to mean women angry
about abuse.)
Romans 8: If your meateating offends your brother abstain from it.
Alex Chartrand and Albert (LosOrc@aol.com) have both commented on the
Greek word for pickled fish which is opsarian.
If Jesus served pickled fish to His disciples, then the fish was
materialized, not caught.
James Marcus: A re-reading of Genesis indicates that God not only promised
humanity but also all animals and Earth herself that the earth would
never again be flooded.
As Scripture forbids the eating of the flesh of strangled animals, some
interpret this to include fishes, since many die of denial of breath,
through suffocation in nets, throats ripped out by hooks etc.
The Essenes of Galilee were upset by Pharisee animal consumption.
Others say that Jesus materialized the fishes for His apostles in
the post Resurrection meal. There are many interpretations.
In Genesis, the dominion humankind was given over animals.. is not
a justification to eat them... for we are also given dominion over our
biological children. The Greek word from which dominion was translated
is "kratos" as in the Greek word democracy, the rule of the people.
To rule does not mean to kill.
(An increasing number of women are involved in Biblical Equality study
groups .. "thy sons and thy daughters shall prophecy" "I shall pour out
My Spirit upon all flesh" etc.)
Dino De Laurentis' film "The Bible" has Noah on the ark feeding cows' milk
to the tigers and lions aboard.
Jesus by many Biblical scholars is considered to be an Essene, a group
which followed the Nazarite vow of celibacy, and vegetarian
diet. Samson's hair strength was related to his Nazarite vow and Paul
is one of his letters refers to a private vow many consider to have
been Nazarite. The Christian Science Monitor on Feb 25, 98 referred
to Essene vegetarianism in an article on Dead Sea Scroll origins.
There are some who believe that Isaiah 11 means we are not to eat
meat in heaven but may eat it now. Yet some of these who interpret Isaiah
11 to mean heaven, with its descriptions of animals in perfect peace, still
say that animals do not have souls and will not go to heaven.
Jesus: Which of you having an ox in a ditch would not rescue it on
the Sabbath?
Jesus' first communion replaced the Passover lamb's consumption
with the bread and wine (some say grape juice) of communion of the Spirit.
John the Baptist: Some Christians believe that John the Baptist ate
locusts. Others believe that he ate locust beans.. the seed pods of the
locust tree. The historian Josephus says on 2 occasions that John the
Baptist ate no animal flesh. (mshaw@gtn.net) The Greek word for insect
locust is akris and for cakes (bean paste) is enkrius.
The word meat used to be a synonym for food, but is no longer.
The Greek words translated as meat actually mean food as the word
phagy in Luke 8: 55, the word trophe in John 4:8, and the word
bromo in Corinthians 8:8.
If animal flesh is meant in the Bible the Greek word sarx is
used, such as the word sarcophagus.. flesh eater.
Christian Science Monitor: Feb 25, 98: The Dead Sea Scrolls were written
by the Essenes, a vegetarian group.
Some interpret the Isaiah "the wolf shall lie down with the lamb" as
heaven rather than now on earth, but there is nothing in the original
language to indicate that. National Institutes of Health in rather
cruel research has found that cats raised without seeing killing
do not know how to kill.. in other words, even for "carnivores" killing
is learned behavior. Even now, we are reaching closer and closer to
Isaiah daily.
Peter's Vision: Many Christians cite the vision of Peter.. that all
food is clean. Other Christians believe that this vision meant that
Christians should abandon the Jewish dietary laws. Peter himself in Acts
10:28 interprets this vision to mean that he should call no human being common
or unclean. It is true that everything in the universe in some way is
sacred because its source is God.. but there are definite differences
between slaughterhouse food and that from a fragrant orchard. In addition
some Christians believe that Isaiah 65 (the nonviolent paradise)
describes a future time. Yet there are many more who believe that
nonviolent paradise begins with each
of us. Each forkfull we take can be from a butchered animal.. or if we
choose.. from a sunfilled fruit tree.
Paula Fredricksen, author of Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews,
discussed her book on C-Span. She stated that on the day before Passover,
some 40,000 quadrupeds (goats, sheep etc) were hanging upside down
bleeding to death. The floor of Solomon's temple was awash in blood.
(It is for this reason that many Biblical scholars believe that Jesus
overturned the temple tables in divine temper as He quoted Isaiah:
I delight not in your blood sacrifice.)
http://bible.crosswalk.com has an interlinear section which lists
14 Hebrew words for kill: harag, zabach, chalal, tabach, muwth, nakah,
naqaph, qatal, ratsach, shachat, sh@chiytah, sakal. They all have
slightly different meanings. Zabach is more often used about the murder
of sacrificial animals. Some Bibles have turned "Thou Shalt Not Kill"
into "Thou Shalt Not Murder". The Greek as well has many synonyms for
kill which have different meanings.
James Marcus has passed on the research of Willard S. Smith who
in Animals, Birds, and Plants In The Bible wrote that the doe was
never eaten and that the Bible contains no reference to cats, perhaps
as a reaction to the Egyptian worship of cats and death penalty for
harming cats.
In the movie "The Greatest Story Ever Told" in which Max Von Sydow plays
the role of Jesus Christ, the scene of Jesus' anger in the temple is related
to the sacrifice of animals there, and as he overturns tables, he quotes
some of the many passages of Isaiah in regards to not harming animals.
Epiphianus states that Nazarites ate no animal flesh. (mshaw@gtn.net)
Become fishers of men and women. (Leave the fishing boats to others.)
Cleveland Amory before his death advanced the idea that animals have souls.
Once in a debate with a religious official who did not agree, he said
"If they don't, all the more reason to give them a fair shake while they
are here."
The writings of the Ebionites, says Pastor Mike Shaw, indicate
that John the Baptist was a vegetarian.
And others say that Elijay, fed manna by God, was also.
Other Biblical quotes are at http://www.ivu.org/people/quotes/Christ
(Oswald Chambers: To saints nature is sacramental.)



Don't tempt the temptress with apples an such

-Marcia Chaffin-


Bill Maher: a real coward is someone who drops a bomb
from a protected space several thousand feet up

http://www.protest.net http://www.internationalanswer.org
http://indymedia.org



Mel Gibson: You drown in Mary's eyes


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Posted by Matt on 03-20-2004 05:25 AM:

Yiddish




GWC: The administration thought Iraq a low hanging fruit
which could be plucked
Others: Rumsfeld prophesied the US military would be greeted by showers of flowers
from the Iraqi people.




-If his song is to continue, we must do the singing-

a sign at a prayer service after the murder of a child



Senator Edward M Kennedy:
(Under this administration what was said to President Kennedy
by Charles DeGaulle is no longer true: ) Charles DeGaulle:
The word of the US is sufficient




Senator Kennedy: We have lost 17 boys in Massachusetts,
7 from Humvee's.


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The image that keeps appearing in my mind is of you at the end of that aisle as your dad put your hand in mine. All I think about is that ? and how we have joined together for life. That is why I must do my best and come home safe to you. Your family entrusted you to me, and I can't take care of you if I don't take care of myself. I love you with all my heart.

Todd Bryant.. killed in Iraq




Henhawk Condoleeza Rice: He is a high value target.
(those who objectify human beings for the purpose of murder
created by bribes are psychopaths)




Barbra Streisand quoting George Bernard Shaw: Thought
transcends matter




bears have trouble with the vote because their claws cause hanging chads...
-Gadfly-







He was born in the Year of the Dog, the month of the Cat, the hour of the Cat, and the minute of the Boar.

-Pam Powers-

(as there is a time for the ascendancy of a political
career.. whether through vote or appointment or fraud, there is a time for descendancy..)




Greetings Lew

what happened at the bridge was that those who
arranged for Kennedy's plane to crash (and for the murder
of his 2 brothers and nephew)
also arranged for his brakes to fail..
He was in the front with someone else.. they did not
know there was someone sleeping in the back seat.

Life is a mirror... we project onto it our own reality...
those who have not
forgiven themselves
see guilt everywhere

why would you want to add to the suffering of someone
who has suffered so much?




Tanya Marie: there are 4 chambers
in the heart..in which one does love
lie


Ernest Angley: The Lord won't confirm a lie.




Hatred metastasizes violence.

(this has happened with so called terror cells which are the
response of the technologically deprived to the technologically
equipped)




H E Jansen: "The man who wins may have been counted out several times but he didn't hear the referee."




Unknown: Only the insane, the retarded, and insurance industries
HMO's, and pharmaceuticals are exempt from the consequences
of their action.




I have become my enemy in the instant that I preached
-Bob Dylan-




WRITING

Unknown: We write what we must learn.

Course In Miracles: The message is intended first for the messenger.

SUPPLY

God Calling: The branch need ask no support from the vine.




PRESIDENT EISENHOWER ON WAR PROFITEERS

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket
fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger
and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world
in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat
of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its
children... this is not a way of life at
all in any true sense. Under the clouds of threatening war, it is
humanity hanging from a cross of iron.


President Dwight Eisenhower
April 16, 1953 a speech before the American Soc of Newsp. Ed




Alex Bevan:

The worm makes
his meal of dirt
.. looks around and
says what's for dessert

(paraphrased from the radio)



Brautigan, Richard
"If you get hung up on everybody else's hang-ups, then the whole world's going to be nothing more than one huge gallows."


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Posted by EZland on 03-30-2004 08:16 PM:

Raoul Vaneigem Quotes

As poverty has been reduced in terms of mere survival, it has become more profound in terms of our way of life.
Raoul Vaneigem

Daily life is governed by an economic system in which the production and consumption of insults tends to balance out.
Raoul Vaneigem

Everything has been said yet few have taken advantage of it. Since all our knowledge is essentially banal, it can only be of value to minds that are not.
Raoul Vaneigem

In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create.
Raoul Vaneigem

Never before has a civilization reached such a degree of a contempt for life; never before has a generation, drowned in mortification, felt such a rage to live.
Raoul Vaneigem

Our task is not to rediscover nature but to remake it.
Raoul Vaneigem

People who talk about revolution and class struggle without referring explicitly to everyday life, without understanding what is subversive about love and what is positive in the refusal of constraints, such people have a corpse in their mouth.
Raoul Vaneigem

Production and consumption are the nipples of modern society. Thus suckled, humanity grows in strength and beauty; rising standard of living, all modern conveniences, distractions of all kinds, culture for all, the comfort of your dreams.
Raoul Vaneigem

Purchasing power is a license to purchase power.
Raoul Vaneigem

The eruption of lived pleasure is such that in losing myself I find myself; forgetting that I exist, I realize myself.
Raoul Vaneigem

The same people who are murdered slowly in the mechanized slaughterhouses of work are also arguing, singing, drinking, dancing, making love, holding the streets, picking up weapons and inventing a new poetry.
Raoul Vaneigem

To be rich nowadays merely means to possess a large number of poor objects.
Raoul Vaneigem

We can escape the commonplace only by manipulating it, controlling it, thrusting it into our dreams or surrendering it to the free play of our subjectivity.
Raoul Vaneigem

Work to survive, survive by consuming, survive to consume: the hellish cycle is complete.
Raoul Vaneigem

__________________
ni dieu ni maitre.
'' There are times where we must use the disdain with parsimony because of the great number of needed''
Chateaubriand





a redwinged blackbird flaps its scarlet flag across the water...........
heavy drooping heads of the sunflowers are omens going to seed

-John Sokol-




William Shakespeare in King Lear: I cannot heave my heart into my throat
(be forced to speak of love)

Kill the physician and thy fee bestow upon the foul
disease (a reference to those so deluded they don't want
to be cured)

Come not between the dragon and his wrath




to EZland
In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create.
-Raoul Vaneigem

this one my favorite

yet GOD has designed a world in which none need work
away from the labors of love

.. while slaughterhouses yield 100 to 1000 lbs of flesh
per acre.. the Genesis diet of the Garden of Eden (or its
counterpart in other faiths) produces 450 to 900,000 lbs
of food per acre (tri level agriculture)

1 centenarian fruit tree can drop 2 tons a year of free food



__________________
"Man did not weave the web of life - he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself."

~Chief Seattle 1854





thank you dolphinsong

quoted by Tom Carper: "When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging"



(re the deficit created by pharmaceutical and war profiteer
siphoning of public money)



WEIGHT LOSS QUOTES from workinghumor.com

(Dr Mervyn Hardinge's isocaloric studies done at an ivy league
school we will not name because it is a primate abuser
revealed that after 3 months fruitarians weigh least, vegans
next.. nonvegetarians most. Nonvegetarians weigh 23 lbs.
more than vegans and 12 lbs. more than dairy vegetarians)


There is no need to worry about mere size. We do not necessarily respect a fat man more than a thin man. Sir Isaac Newton was very much smaller than a hippopotamus, but we do not on that account value him less. ~ Bertrand Russell

What you eat standing up doesn't count ~ Beth Barnes

Give me a dozen heartbreaks...if you think it would help me lose one pound. ~ Colette

Seize the moment. Remember all those women on the 'Titanic' who waved off the dessert cart. ~ Erma Bombeck