Hello Everyone

[Ross-Z]

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum, I just had a few questions regarding the Ukrainian language. First of all I would like to say that my grandpa is Ukrainian (his mother and father came from the Ukraine to Canada before world war one)and I have always been fascinated with the language. I never learned Ukrainian as a child and now I find myself drawn to it. Now that I have explained a little bit about myself here comes the questions. My first name is Ross and my last name is Zariski, but my grandfather said that when his dad came over they changed it from Zarichnae (sounds like Za-RICH-NAY) and I was wondering how that would be spelled in the Cyrllic alphabet. Also I was wondering about how hard would Ukrainian be to learn? I speak fluent english and a large amount of Frence, Swedish and I can have conversations in Japanese. Also, how useful is Ukrainian these days? I know where I live in Canada there is a fair amount of people from Ukrainian background, and small ukrainian communities, but the language people speak is still English, I know Russian would be more useful, but I feel obligated to learn Ukrainian just because I want to get in touch with my historical roots.

Anyways I will stop rambling =)
Thanks in advance to anyone who replies

[candle]

Hi Ross!

Welcome to the board. To bad but I couldn▓t give you the spelling of your family name in Cyrillic, simply because this site wouldn▓t allow it. But I could tell you that Zarichniy (that would probably be the right pronunciation) means someone from behind the river.
About learning Ukrainian, it would probably be not to hard if you have some bits of the conversations in between your grandfather and your parents stored somewhere in your memory.

I do not know the usefulness of Ukrainian these days as in contest like English, but I▓m sure you would benefit from being able to understand ancestral language. Ukrainian literature despite being repressed for centuries is very beautiful and very original and would open you a whole new world. And opportunity to understand everything while you may one day visit your ancestral land would be an exciting experience.

Have fun learning the language, and if you would like to know some more about Ukraine, there are many good discussions going on this board, and here you could find points of view of different people. Fill free to ask questions, there always will be someone to answer.

[Kirtie]

It looks something like this, assuming I'm not misspelling it:

3API4HAI

The 4 is supposed to be the open kind we Americans always use when we write it by hand.

Hope that helps, and please don't anyone flame me for a misspelling, but I think that's correct.

Kirt

[Hannia]

I think it was most likely гЮПЁВМХИ.

If you cannot read above, place your cursor anywhere where it is blank on grey part of this window. Right click once. Click ENCODING. Click CYRILLIC WINDOWS.
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Since you already have a facility for learning other languages, you really should not have as much difficulty learning Ukrainian as someone who knows only one language.

Click on Language.
http://pages.prodigy.net/l.hodges/ukraine.htm#Language

[Hannia]

The males in your ancestral family would have been ZARICZNYJ/ ZARICZNY and the females ZARICZNA.

I took a quick look @ Canadian Archives.
NA - Genealogy Research
http://www.archives.ca/02/020202_e.html

Above under Land Grants (1870-1930) there is an IWAN ZARICZNYJ.
THE FULLNESS OF TIME: http://www.whitepinepictures.com/see...1/sidebar.html

Under Immigration (1925 -1935) there are :
Pawel Zariczny - arriving 1928 from Poland***
Theodor Zariczny - arriving 1927 from Poland.
Franczik Zariczny - arriving 1926 from Poland.
Piotr Zaricznyj - arriving 1927 from Poland.

****Kordyban Web Site - History of Galicia
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....an/galicia.htm
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From the little looking I did (looked thru Ellis Island Records) I suspect that your ancestors were either Lemko from what would be Poland today, or Ruthenians from what would be Western Ukraine today. At the turn of the century this whole area was part of the AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN EMPIRE.

"Did Your Baba Come from Austria?" by Orysia Tracz
http://www.infoukes.com/genealogy/tracz/baba.html

If you like, once you ascertain where your first immigrant ancestor was born, come to the Genealogy forum and there you can get help locating the village on a map, some historical background and where archival records can be found. You might even consider reconnecting to distant cousins still in the area.

Genealogy.com: Canadian vital records
http://www.genealogy.com/00000153.ht...ome=1068987760
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Links of interest:

Immigrants to Canada - Ukrainians
http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/ge...ukrainian.html

Ukrainian Genealogy Group - National Capital Region
http://www.geocities.com/uggncr/

Ukrainian Immigration
http://home.merlin.mb.ca/~rfmorris/F...migration.html

These hints apply to all of Canada.
Research Hints
http://www.saskgenealogy.com/researc...arch_hints.htm