SS Galicia

[Hannia]

Well, I actually do think it was an ethnic cleansing.
But I also think Ukrainians judge action "Wisla" too harshly and do not see it in full context.

Action "Wisla" was an ethnic cleansing, but it was an ethnic cleansing based upon resettlement, not mass murder - and as such it was actually a step in good direction as far as previous Polish-Ukrainian relations (and mass murders) are concerned.


M,

You are an ignoramus, who typifies Polish chauvinism at its worst.

You think?

You can't think because you have your head up your own behind.
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The following is just a very short list of the inhumanity committed by rabid Poles toward their own citizenry, because they happen to have been ethnic Ukrainians:

In another post you thought the numbers in Pavlokoma were exaggerated. You doubted that 324 people died in one day? This was a place where Poles murdered their own Ukrainian wives. There are eyewitnesses to this.

In Zavadka Morochivska, out of 325 inhabitants, 78 people were deported. The rest were brutally tortured and murdered and then buried in a mass grave.

In Pyskorovychi, a detachment of the NSZ slaughtered some 400 Ukrainians that were being readied for resettlement.

In Rzeszow, over 1000 Ukrainians were killed.

In Stary Lublinets, 540 Ukrainians were tortured and then murdered.

In Goraj, 400 Ukrainian dead.

In Verkhovyna 200 slaughtered, included 65 children.

As per the UBP, from March to June 1945, the Polish underground murdered over 1500 Ukrainians.

In the Ukrainian hospital in Kruhlytsia, 25 patients in their beds were burned alive.

Then there was the massacre in Terka where on July 9, 1946, the Polish military murdered 30 unarmed Ukrainians locked up in one of the village huts, by using grenades.
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Please don't bother responding. If the wrong people read what you have to say, they might wipe Poland off the map for another 125 yrs.

[MichaelB_PL]

Originally Posted by Hannia

Well, I actually do think it was an ethnic cleansing.
But I also think Ukrainians judge action "Wisla" too harshly and do not see it in full context.

Action "Wisla" was an ethnic cleansing, but it was an ethnic cleansing based upon resettlement, not mass murder - and as such it was actually a step in good direction as far as previous Polish-Ukrainian relations (and mass murders) are concerned.


M,

You are an ignoramus, who typifies Polish chauvinism at its worst.

Action "Wisla" was a step in good direction as far as methods are concerned, because it was generally a resettlement action, which makes it more humanitarian than previous Polish or Ukrainians actions [of mass murder] - if you can't deal with it, don't post in the history section.

You can't think because you have your head up your own behind.

LOL. Is this meant to be an argument of some sort? What a high standart of discussion.

The following is just a very short list of the inhumanity committed by rabid Poles toward their own citizenry, because they happen to have been ethnic Ukrainians:

The "rabid Poles" did this because many of them lost their families in the attacks by UPA. I can't condone this, but I don't think it's fair to call them "rabid" - average man will become "rabid" if he'll lose family members or see bodies of the cruelly slain.

In another post you thought the numbers in Pavlokoma were exaggerated. You doubted that 324 people died in one day? This was a place where Poles murdered their own Ukrainian wives. There are eyewitnesses to this.

There are also witnesses who say there were less than 200 victims and mostly or only males. Which witnesses are right? Anyway, nobody disputes that Poles murdered over a hundred of Ukrainians there and I don't think if it's important if it was precisly below 200 or more than 300.

Please don't bother responding. If the wrong people read what you have to say, they might wipe Poland off the map for another 125 yrs.

ROFL. I'm afraid your emotions are getting too much control over you - relax a bit before posting again.


Michael

[Hannia]

M,

What does it say on the bottom of a Coke bottle in Poland?
Open other end.

School's out, kiddo.

[MichaelB_PL]

Originally Posted by Hannia

M,

What does it say on the bottom of a Coke bottle in Poland?
Open other end.

School's out, kiddo.

Excellent quality post... true masterpiece. BTW are you perhaps a Galician or diaspora Ukrainian?

Originally Posted by Unbreakable

But he▓s just showing his absolute ignorance and proving the fact of pre-WW2 Poland being fascist repressive state (well √ week √ but definitely fascist).

Pre-WW2 Poland was not a fascist state- authoritative yes, fascist no. Actually the Polish fascists, the ND political movement, resisted the takeover of power by Pilsudski and his "Sanacja" political trend.

So √ as I proposed before √ moderators should create for him (and other nazi-commie-fascist scum alike) special ⌠hate-grunt-bleak-bark■ thread┘

I think we have a bit of incosistency here - you glorify OUN/UPA, who were nothing else than Ukrainian fascists organisations and yet you speak about "other nazi-commie-fascist scum".

We know √ and we remember √ and proudly honour sacred memory of our heroes┘

Our land. Our heroes.

Yes, yes, I know already: Your land. Your war criminals. Why do you keep repeating this over?


Michael

[Zbyszek]

Originally Posted by Hannia

M,

What does it say on the bottom of a Coke bottle in Poland?
Open other end.

School's out, kiddo.

I had an impression that the season for the Polish jokes has already passed in Canada but now I see that it is alive and kicking.

I have to say I am surprised by the answer of Unbreakable to Michael's post. Michael discussed the UPA issue accussing this organisation of many sins (most of them justified in my opinion). Unbreakable's answer: moderators should create for him (and other nazi-commie-fascist scum alike) special “hate-grunt-bleak-bark” thread. It loooks like kid's talk.

General conclusion: digging in not-so-distant past can be fascinating but it is more often devastating. Exchange of historic blows offends many of our ancestors, many of whom have lived their living in mixed Polish-Ukrainian environment.

[Hannia]

Action "Wisla" was a step in good direction as far as methods are concerned, because it was generally a resettlement action, which makes it more humanitarian than previous Polish or Ukrainians actions [of mass murder] - if you can't deal with it, don't post in the history section.

Was it as humanitarian as the Polish treatment of civilian Germans?

Over 55,000 CIVILIAN Germans were murdered before Krwawa Niedziela. Poles had been merrily slaughtering anybody German as early as April 1939. There were smashed faces, amputations, disembowelments and rapes. All conducted by Poles w/no impunity, because the League of Nations wasn't listening to official German protests. The Nazi invasion of Poland in September 1939 was precipitated by these Polish atrocities.

It is Poland's humanitarianism that has made it the most homogeneous country in Europe.

[Zbyszek]

Originally Posted by Hannia

Action "Wisla" was a step in good direction as far as methods are concerned, because it was generally a resettlement action, which makes it more humanitarian than previous Polish or Ukrainians actions [of mass murder] - if you can't deal with it, don't post in the history section.

Was it as humanitarian as the Polish treatment of civilian Germans?

Over 55,000 CIVILIAN Germans were murdered before Krwawa Niedziela. Poles had been merrily slaughtering anybody German as early as April 1939. There were smashed faces, amputations, disembowelments and rapes. All conducted by Poles w/no impunity, because the League of Nations wasn't listening to official German protests. The Nazi invasion of Poland in September 1939 was precipitated by these Polish atrocities.

It is Poland's humanitarianism that has made it the most homogeneous country in Europe.

So we have a new theory - Poland is now responsible for WW2 outbreak. Really, this historic argument deserves a Nobel prize! (Goebbels should claim it).

A recipe for a good doctoral thesis:

1. Take up old lies from the dump basket of Nazi German propaganda.
2. Add a fresh sauce of new suspicious national homogeneity of contemporary Poland (did not Poland murder all her national minorities?)
3. Mix it well and serve hot on the plate of newfound Polish anti-gay/anti-semitic attitude accusations.

Success is yours!


As to homogeneity - a few million of Poles were resettled from the Eastern Borderlands into what is called Poland now. Again, Poland is guilty of course because of Rzeczpospolita times.