Attention Ivan_Mazepa

[Unbreakable]

Originally posted by Ivan_Mazepa
BTW, Lviv- way overrated.

Ehmmm - which way exactly?
Could You (or Your horse) be more precise?

If You (both) meant "historically" - well - Lviv first was mentioned in 1256 (Chernivci - 1408) -
and if we talk about multicultural traditions - Armenian church in Lviv is dated 1363 (in Chernivci - 1875).
Talking about newest history - oficially first Ukrainian Flag was raised in Lviv (Lenin's monument bit the dust second in USSR - after Vilnius).
Etc, etc, etc - history, architecture, people, resistance, struggle, culture, Church - etc, etc, etc...

But I may agree that Chernivci (and Khotyn, and a lot towns in Western and the rest of Ukraine) are "way underrated".
So - go ahead - make it famous!

Slava Ukraini!!!

[Ivan_Mazepa]

Heroiam slava!

I didn't mean history of Halychyna at all. Just the city Lviv, that's all. Certain smugness- pany duzhe honorovi. Also the attitude- as if Lviviany are the only Ukrainian patriots.

Does "Karpaty" still play futbol?

[Burrbee]

It is interesting to see you and your fellow countrymen's verbal jousting!

Most of the Ukrainians who came to Canada (about 80 %) came from Galicia. (the remaining 20% from Bukovyna or Carpathians) So much of the history of Ukraine immigrants in Canada is written from a distinctly Galician point of view so it is interesting to hear from a Bukovynian.

Do you know of any good books that are written about Bukovyna history? (Time period of about 1890-1945).

What do you eat in Bukovyna? Are there fastfood restaurants in Chernvitsi? Any specialities other than what I am used to such as: holubsti (rice, buckwheat,beet leaf etc), pyrogy, nalysnyki, nachinka,pyrizhky,borscht.

Do you keep any folk traditions or did that all end with Soviet occupation?

[Ivan_Mazepa]

Do you know of any good books that are written about Bukovyna history? (Time period of about 1890-1945).
Nothing immediate comes to mind, would have to do some research.

What do you eat in Bukovyna? Any specialities other than what I am used to such as: holubsti (rice, buckwheat,beet leaf etc), pyrogy, nalysnyki, nachinka,pyrizhky,borscht.
You mean what's the traditional Bukovynian meal? Well, it's mamalyha (made of cornflour), often with brynzia (cheese).

Are there fastfood restaurants in Chernvitsi?
No, no McDonald's in Chernivtsi.

Do you keep any folk traditions or did that all end with Soviet occupation?
No, everything is still there. Bukovyna is mostly rural, so it got to be preserved pretty well. (Chernivtsi- cosmopolitan)

[benda]

Ivan, you won't believe: "Karpaty" not only plays football (now in the first league but they will surely play in supreme league next season) but also got into semifinal of Ukrainian football cup where it is going to meet Dynamo this week. And on their way to semifinal "Karpaty" beat "Shakhtar" Donets'k (!!!) in Lviv - 1:0.

[Unbreakable]

- yeah - sometimes "Karpaty" can jump over their heads...
Unfortunatelly owners sold the best player - goalkeeper Bogdan Shust - to "Shakhtar" - for $2,000,000 - really huge sum for inner transfer!!! - so now he serves there also as press secretary (one of two "pitmans" who speaks Ukrainian ).
- Lviv fans were very angry about this transfer! (maybe here lie the keys of mysterious last friday's death of Bogdan Fedoryshyn - director-general of "Karpaty"?)

P.S. Benda, so will You be in Lviv at this match on 22nd or not?
- if yes - please place big sticker with Your alias on Your back - so I'll omit You while kicking buttocks of "Dynamo" fans

[benda]

Originally posted by Unbreakable
so now he serves there also as press secretary (one of two "pitmans" who speaks Ukrainian ).

And the other is Tymoshchuk from Volyn'? How about Chigrinskiy?

I won't be in Lviv on 22th, unfortunately. But I hope there won't be such nationalist things as during "Karpaty"-"Shakhtar" - like "лНЯЙЮКЪЙС МЮ ЦЁККЪЙС!".