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Old 24th November 2005, 16:54
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Hello Zby need ure help....
Iknow that there where Cossacks, Tatars and Jews in Korczak herby but where there Armenians?

i have asked at genealogy.com and szlachta.org etc but nobody knows....maybe Wujachewicz, Wujakiewicz is armenian? i thougth it was tatar...i know that bohdanowicz and Krzeczowski are tatar and esman and horaim jewish....Orlyk Pylyp is there too but what has his surname changed into cause i cant find Pylyp in the Korczak clan surname list?


also like to know if there was any enobeld in moldavia during polish lenno times 1387-1489? and 16?? where ottoman and pol-lith had it together as lenno...i know that some tatars where moved from podolia to moldavia after russia took over in 1795..

and in prussia during 1466-1657 when it was polish lenno...

same for smolensk and czernihow who was lost in 1667...cause ive seen that there where polish nobles there well into 1900 century proly even today those who wasnt killed or sent to siberia.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korczak_Coat_of_Arms
http://www.polonium.de/docs/ciekawos...rczak_big.html
http://www.herby.com.pl/herby/


i was also told by wlady at genealogy.com that they checked ure family tree when marrying someone u couldnt be related minumum 8 generations (150-200 years) back... that was good cause today nobody knows so little iof their ancestors they may be cousins but as today we move migrate etc i think its lesser chance of inbreading...but for peasents who lived in same village hundreds years i think big risk when i look my ancestors i find that the women often came from another village/city...so proly im related to about 16 surnames in corczak clan cause often u married within clan but also marry to other clan was normal...do u have any clan wlady? also i read that some nobles lost their history cause when pol-lith was parted not all get to be nobles by law some moved migrated etc and lost their history....so there may be some surnames who has noble history but is lost today wars,fiers and discrimination by ocupational countrys....i read that 20% pol-lith commonwealth nobles lost their information. cause its not like today on computers if the church records or civial records lost and some generations went then ure family lost this info....i can tell u my family didnt know that sledzinski was noble name, all my family said they where mostly peasents etc poor but the more i find out they where nobles and militarys...after ocupation my ancestors maybe lost lands estates etc and also lost history often nobles where most perececuted by prussia,russia,austria after uprsisngs so u wanted to blend in and not speak to loud..

[Edited by hating_nation on 25th November 2005 at 02:11]
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Old 25th November 2005, 16:41
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also need to know when Samuel Mirza Krzeczowski was born and died and where he lived....
tatar who saved king Sobieski at battle of parkany..

and if there where armenians in korczak clan....
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Old 21st December 2005, 15:59
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SLEDZIEWSKI – 1600; ruskie, Królestwo Polskie (Szg., Br., H. Kr. Pol.).

SLEDZINSKI – 1600; Sledzie kolski. Tak sama rodzina co Sledziewscy (Dm.).

i translate this as they where ukraine origin? cause in 1600 ruskie ment ukraine, Litwa was belarus and lithuania...


where they boyars,peasents or cossacks before enobelment?
why isnt there written down any info what area off ukraine they originated? or why they become enobled?

wheres wladyslaw at?
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