Painfull events in common Polish - Ukrainian history...

[Fitch]

Bartosz, do you write everything in samplers? Can you actually put an argument together.

I know this is slightly off subject, but I just have to say it.

Having traveled and worked in East / Central Europe I can say without doubt that Ukrainians are the most welcoming of people and the Polish the least. No where in Ukraine did I see gangs of nazi skin heads. Poland has them in every city. In Ukraine I saw no swastikas; in Poland they were sprayed everywhere. Don't believe me? Then take any road off the beaten track in Crackow and you'll see them. Take care if you venture in to the war time ghetto, there are nazi Poles everywhere. Poland is a lovely country with some great people, but it's certainly one of the most racist countries in the Europe. However, I never met a racist Pole! It's always someone else's who's got the problem. You must know the drill, "I'm not racist, but....Jew, Gypsies etc."

Bartosz seem quite typical of the vocal minority of far right Poles who can't face up to modernity without looking to scapegoat someone for their failings. Unfortunately in this case the victim is Ukraine.It makes a change from the Jews! Fortunately, the Polish government has made massive strides towards full reconciliation with Ukraine. Silesian nationalist hate this and long for the good old days of the domination of Ukrainians.
Shevster(?) calls for Slavic unity and Bartosz calls for Slavic disunity I think I know who I'd follow.

[Bartosz]

So Fitch, from you mail I learned few interesting things: that there exists some mithic country,the true cross breeding of Walhalia and Eden, dreamed Country of the Eternal Huntings of Siuxes and Puanishes. Aborigens are there good natured and even good tempered, but have nasty neighbours.

Ok. that was trully educative and levered this discussion to the new heights.

I also learned that I'm nationalist from Silesia. One thing I'm inclined to agree (I'm from Silesia), but naming me nationalist requires according to me some amplifying the subject.

These details about svasticas and skins were very exotic and made your mail even spicy, but what they have to do with this subject I don't know.

I hope that this way you weeped out enough and will return enough to the mental stability to start the discussion.

I don't like slogans about Slave unity, as about other abstractions (communism, nasizm). If you don't want me to die of boredom, please don't use similar arguments.

[steve_vlasenko]

What do these words mean?

mithic
Huntings
Siuxes
Puanishes
Aborigens
neighbours.
trully
svasticas
weeped
nasizm.

Vlas.

[Fitch]

The topic is called Painful events in common Polish - Ukrainian history... When it actually should be called, Ukrainians! You are to blame for everything bad that▓s happened to Poland and should beg for Polish forgiveness.

Bartosz What do you understand by the words.

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I suggest you jack in your attempt at rudeness and find out what these words mean. Then maybe you▓ll see why various people have referred to you as a Polish Nationalist.
In my experience Poland is a country with an a-typical amount of skinheads and nazis. I wonder why? Again in my experience these people lament their lost territory of Ukraine and will stop at nothing to damage independent Ukraine. You Bartosz appear to one of them. Find out what the words above mean before responding in your typically rude manner.
You are either a very rude ignoramus or your are over reaching your grasp of English. Which is it? I hope certainly hope it was the latter.
Fitch
Once you've found out what those words mean and if you feel compelled to reply, do you think you can do it with a lucid argument rather than in inane samplers?

[Bartosz]

Originally posted by steve.vlasenko:
What do these words mean?

mithic
Huntings
Siuxes
Puanishes
Aborigens
neighbours.
trully
svasticas
weeped
nasizm.

Vlas.

Vlas, what wil be next? How much is 2+2?

[Bartosz]

FITCH:

[...]IMPLIED[...] - GIVE ME THE CONTEXT, I WILL GIVE YOU THE MEANING.

[...]RUDENESS[...] - BLA, BLA
[...]SKINHEADS[...] - BLA, BLA

[...]TO DAMAGE INDEPENDENT [...] - THE BIGGEST WRONG WAS DANE TO UKRAINE BY CRIMINAL FELLOWS FROM UPA.THE REST IS OF NO IMPORTANCE.

YOUR DEFINITION OF NATIONALIST IS A LITTLE BIT CONVOLUTED AND SINCIRELLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I CAREFULLY ANALIZED YOUR STATEMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS FOLLOWING DOUBTS:

- AM I NATIONALIST BECAUSE I EXPRESSED ANY REGRET BECAUSE OF TERRITORIAL LOOSES OF POLAND? I DOUBT. I RERED MY MAILS, I FOUND A SINGLE WORD ABOUT IT.

- AM I NATIONALIST BECAUSE I HAVE NEGATIVE OPINION ON UPA? AM I BY EXPRESSING NEGATIVE OPINIONS ON UPA DOING WRONG TO UKRAINE? THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST CONTROVERSIAL!

KISSES!

[Fitch]

Chill Dude,

Why all the shouting? This is a debate and you're getting all hot under the collar.

Still writing in samplers. I did ask you to make your comeback a proper argument. Is that why you lost you temper?
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I take it you don't know what these words mean. I guess that▓s why you keep coming back with the same vacuous points. May I suggest you check out the Headway English textbooks they'll enable you to get a grasp of these words and then you'll understand why it's so easy to read your nationalism.
Is this topic about the UPA now? You're a little obsessed with them, but I guess all Polish nationalist are. It seems as if I touched a sore point with regard to Skinheads. Are you one of them or worse still are you an apologist for Polish Skinheads?
Are the topics only fluid if you say so?
I like the idea of guilt transference, it fits you well. Poland a country with a lot of neo-nazis and a Polish ▒know it all▓ getting very upset when anyone mentions this. Why?
Now if you're going to respond again, please try to make an argument and most of all remember to keep cool. I wouldn't want you to kick the bucket on my account.

Fitch