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Old 29th September 2000, 06:28
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Thanks Stas

I can't believe no one said them earlier(me included)

Cheers, take care

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Old 1st October 2000, 05:47
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Old 5th October 2000, 07:00
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Kyj, Shchek and Khoryv and their syster Lybid the legendary founders of Kyiv.
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I did not name them earlier, because they are legendary and nobody proved that they were real. Then even if they founeded Kiev - so what?! If it would not be for them, some one also would have done it. But nobody can replace Shevchenko, or Roksolana or other MOST IMPORTANT figures, that were named earlier.
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Old 5th October 2000, 12:21
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I disagree.

If it wasn't for them, no one would've found Kyiv, maybe some other city, but not Kyiv, not in that exact location. Therefore, maybe there wouldn't be Ukraine without them at all, and Shevchenko,Roksalana wouldn't exist.

With all due respect to Shevchenko,
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Old 21st February 2001, 00:50
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LM,

Prince Volodymyr (Vladimir) and Prince Yaroslav the Wise were not Ukrainians. They were Russian princes. Vladimir baptised the Russian people, and Yaroslav's Code of Laws was called the Russian Truth, accordingly. There was no Ukraine at that time and no Ukrainians either.
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- and one can not even count many and many historical figures starting beginning of 20th century: poets and writers who tried to promote and awaken national selfrespect killed by many years of Russian Tzars oppression; freedom fighters after 1917 revolt such as Mahno and Petljura; freedom fighters during WWII; freedom fighters after WWII, who were killed and jailed during Soviets
One cannot count how many Russian freedom fighters were killed during Tsarist rule, Decembrist uprising, Razin, Pugachev and other revolts, during Stalin's and Lenin's rule, in the 1917 Revolution and Civil War, in WWI and WWII, etc. How about the hundreds of thousands of people in Galicia and Carpathian Rus who were killed because they called themselves Russians or Rusyns?
So don't go feeling sorry for your little Ukraine-Borderland.
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and we probably even will not know all of their names.
I am sure, if necessity comes, you can always produce those names. There was probably millions of them, right?
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Old 21st February 2001, 10:26
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The last mong,

Are you referring to Kyiv-Rus?

I'd take time to read a little more widely before making your next idiotic response.

You're either an imbecile or a Russia nationalist coming along for some trouble. Either way welcome to the fray.

A little border-lander ready and waiting for your next moronic post.

Vlas.
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Old 21st February 2001, 14:34
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Thumbs down To the jerk-off

Keep yapping, borderland wimp.

I'll repeat, just in case it didn't get through your thick skull: Prince Vladimir the Saint and Prince Yaroslav the Wise were Russian princes, not Ukrainian.

Ready as well for your next attempt to sound intelligent. Don't strain yourself too much.


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