Ukraine nationalism

[Zbyszek]

Originally posted by MiguelMichael
since when do Baltics use cyrillica?

I've heard recently that Polish langauge is more similar to Ukrainian than Russian and that 17% words are identic but I don't believe it.
now it's hard to find something different between Russia and Ukraine.I wouldn't tell any differences in language.

Miquel, can you read cyrillic characters? I think you are misguided by cyrillic characters. Try to understand anything from the thread "Ukrajins'ki rozmovy" in the Politics forum. DO you know any Russian?
Russians tried to cyrillize Lithuanian texts but they failed.
I would say that 17% percent would be roughly correct.
Can you tell any difference between western and eastern Ukrainian in speech?

[MiguelMichael]

I can't read cyrillic.perhaps i would learn Russian if they started to use western alphabet.now I'm too lazy to learn alpahbet with different letters from the beginning.

[Ivan_Mazepa]

From Wikipedia: "...In 1864, following the January Uprising, Mikhail Nikolayevich Muravyov, Governor General of Lithuania, instituted a complete ban on the use of the Latin alphabet and education and printed matter in Lithuanian. Books written using the Latin alphabet continued to be printed across the border in East Prussia and in the United States. Smuggled into the country despite stiff prison sentences, they helped fuel growing nationalist sentiment that finally led to the lifting of the ban in 1904..."
Also http://www.spaudos.lt/Istorija/Press_ban.en.htm

..Can you tell any difference between western and eastern Ukrainian in speech?
Westerners, especially Galicians, have "sia" in their language. "Yak sia mayesh?" (How are you?) Also words of Austrian origin like "rover" (bicycle)

...that 17% words are identic but I don't believe it..
'Cause you have no imagination.

[Serhii]

Originally posted by MiguelMichael
I can't read cyrillic.perhaps i would learn Russian if they started to use western alphabet.now I'm too lazy to learn alpahbet with different letters from the beginning.

Oh my, we won't ever use Latin alphabet ! Cyrillic is our heritage . We can not use it here , because this site doesn't support our native ( = originally came from Greece ) letters. Ukrainians in Diaspora make their best to learn characters of Nestor the Chronicle .

Ukrainian Cyrillic defers from Russian ( and other Slavic ones). But we do believe it is a Slavic heritage.

You Poles are very Western people , no doubt. Germans knew it and understood you very well over centuries.

[Zbyszek]

Originally posted by Serhii
Ukrainian Cyrillic defers from Russian ( and other Slavic ones). But we do believe it is a Slavic heritage.

You Poles are very Western people , no doubt. Germans knew it and understood you very well over centuries.
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Hi Serhii, have you already become acquianted with history of Ukrainian language given by The Last Word?

His final conclusion: Ukrainian is nothing more than Russian severed by the Poles.
http://www.ukraine.com/forums/showth...?threadid=4485

I am very curious about your view on hard scientific job of Russian researchers!

Regards
Zbigniew

[MichaelB_PL]

Originally posted by MiguelMichael
since when do Baltics use cyrillica?

I've heard recently that Polish langauge is more similar to Ukrainian than Russian and that 17% words are identic but I don't believe it.

now it's hard to find something different between Russia and Ukraine.I wouldn't tell any differences in language.

I accidently heared Russian and Ukrainian in the TV... I could not tell one from another if I did't know which is which, but I did note that Ukrainian sounded much more similiar to Polish. BTW I'd say that to me it even sounded closer to Polish than Czech.

Of course, it does't mean anything- of 3 nations that murdered most Poles in the last century, 2 (Russians and Ukrainians) had "similiar" languages.



Michael

[MiguelMichael]

Originally posted by Serhii

You Poles are very Western people , no doubt. Germans knew it and understood you very well over centuries.
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what do you mean by ,,Germans understood us''?