Ukraine - a new Chechnia?

[beata]

Well Vladi, I've apologised to you for being rude. But I was rude as you made me really mad. And now what I see? You're making me mad again. But I won't say any vulgarities again as it's beyond me. I'm not Ukrainian so one could say I have no reason for stadning by this nation. Probably not. But when I hear the things you say, I go crazy. So Ukrainians are really Russians? Aha. And probably so are Poles. And Irishmen are really English, and Algierians are French and so on...Bulbulbul**** (I won't be vulgar ). You're a strange guy Vladi. By the way, where do you come from?

[StasUA]

Hmm vlad, now you are discriminating millions of ukrainians. You probably do not know anything about Ukraine, or you just some russian nationalist. Ukraine, which was first
called "Kievan Rus" has been first slavic nation in the world there was no sign of some russia at that time... Ukrainian
history shows that we are great nation, we have conquered capital of Eastern Roman Empire. We have survived many many wars, and then some emigrants, who were led by
Dolgorukiy went north and established a village of Moscow. That is a beginning of russia, and long before it, Ukraine thrived
upon the Europe! Then our SMALL-brothers russians, attacked us without a stopping, and finally occupied Ukraine. And those
are the FACTS. Russians are just UKRAINIANS that emigrated to asia and eastern Europe(As I said before I consider Ukraine as
central European country) That is it.

[Uliana]

Vladi
90% russians live in Eastern Ukraine????????
I learn something new every day.
OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where the hell did you get such an info? Most people speak russian there, it's true, but it doesn't mean they are Russians!!!!!!!!!
The reason they speak it is very simple. They did not have many Ukrainian schools there.But a lot of them are true Ukrainian Patriots.
I would suggest to open the book on Ukrainian history & read a bit before discussing this topic.
Cheers.

[vladi1]

O.K.my little darlings,
Here are some historical facts.
Kiev,also known as Mother of Russian Cities.
882A.D.Becomes a capital of a first important Russian state called Kievan Rus.
During the reign of my namesake Vladimir 1st
Greek Orthodox faith was adopted.
Kiev bocomes the first center of Christianity
in Russia.
Ruled by Mongols from 1240-1360.
Lithuanian rule the city 1360 till 1482.
Crimean Tatars rule the city till 1569.
When it becomes part of Poland.
Now 1648 is very iportante date for you little darlings.Why?Well,cossacks under the
lidership of Bohdan Khmelnytsky defeat Polish
invaders and Kiev bocomes the capital of the
first independent Ukrainian state.
In 1686 city was taken back by Russia were it belonged in the firs place.
So much for you not being RUSSIANS.
To change my mind.You would have to change
historical facts documented by world historians.And not by some fabels weaved by some old camp fiers.

[grandma]

Vladi, tomorrow I will post here in Ukrain some parts of articles of newspapers. It's one.

2nd. In Yugoslavia there was Serbians, as you, but there was another nationalities, as Bosnians, etc., what didn't want to see you dear Miloshevich. For you and he all is Great Yugoslavia. Great mistake. There was "my beautiful" Austro Hungary Imperia, and we was part of this beautiful country. There aren't my beautiful Imperia (thanks to your neighbours, je je). Any problem? No. There was URSS, but now there are independent countries. Any problem? Yes, Kiev was OCCUPIED by Russians. But the main part of population feel Ukranians. Now there are people who speak Russian, but feel Ukrain, and are proud to be Ukrains. Any problem with this?

3d. You haven't idea about Spain. Here are many things I don't like. But it is mostly democratic country. So the Basque terrorists are in prision, where will be this young neonazi. The kind of life of Basque people here in Spain I would like to have in the former URSS, with schools in Basque, with ALL institutions bilingual, so if you don't know Basque, you haven't a possibility to have job in ANY governamental institution, etc. But I repeit once more - you DON'T WHANT to know nothing. This is your problem.

Lilly, I cannot really feel as my country the union of Russia and Ukrain. You know the problem? My neighbours, and people who are interesting for me (only because I know them better) are Polish, Slovak and Hungarian. I don't feel nothing to Riazan, or Oriol. You say that they are more important? For whom? For me - absolutly no. All my neighbours have in this 3 countries relatives, friends, etc. So for us it is more important to join this countries.

Stasiu, I reloaded the site, and there didn't appear my posting. So I repeit it. Excuses.

[vladi1]

GRANDMA,
Would you make up your mind girl.One day you write how Basque are second citizens, next day you tell me haw great they have it in Spain.
As far as knowing about Spain.I know more that you will ever know even thou you live there.
Miloshevic is not dear to me I can not stand the BUSTARDE.I have already stated that fact in my previos article.But as usual you see only what you want to see.
And you go on again with the camp fire stories.bla,bla,bla,my nabour this and my nabour that.I GAVE you the historical facts.

[johnstruthers]

Vlad...chill out. Now we've got snot all over the carpet in our nice room.

Grandma...you are beautiful.

Lilly...you are too.

Yulia...and you are, too, especially.

NATO should be disbanded. Its original meaning has been transcended by events. So Ukraine should stay out of it.

Russia has neither the will nor the capacity to tear into Ukraine. The comments in Russian press that suggest a 5th column of Ukrainians have to be consumed with a little vodka. Lots of irresponsible things show up in the Russian press now, but no one is seriously suggesting that Ukrainians are behind the disorder in Chechnya. Nobody believes that.

Ukraine should develop, then maintain, a policy of neutrality, and a practice of ethnic inclusion, including language tolerances. Improve relations with the neighbors on all sides, and figure out ways to get them to spend or invest their money in Ukraine.

The US's role as Big Hegemon is eroding. Europe has discovered itself, and is in the process of sharing its breath mints with Ukraine, after munching them among themselves for the last decade.

The USSR is dead, and so is the CIS. We've got to stop looking over our shoulders.

And all of us Slavs should stop shooting at each other, especially here.