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Old 13th October 2005, 07:49
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Cool Get real

Sorry Michael,

Your problem is to try and paint the UPA as fascists,
rather than focus on the REAL enemies of Ukraine...

Socialists and communists from Moscow!

Please read independent historical sources.
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Old 13th October 2005, 10:04
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UPA were fascists.I thought we all made it clear.
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Old 13th October 2005, 14:00
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Really? Why haven't I noticed?
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Old 13th October 2005, 19:55
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no need to notice that white is white and black is black.UPA were fascists and chauvinists.
,,One dead Pole is one more metre of Great Ukraine'' ''Death to the Poles''
these are fascist greetings and phrases of UPA that illustrate how radical UPA was.they fought for free Ukraine.that's true but so what? they were fascists and it doesn't justify them.Ante Pavelic was fighting for free Croatia but was fascist at the same time.
antidemocratic and quasi-mafia conspired structure of OUN proves it as well.
even official title of Stepan Bandera was prowidnyk which means the same as: Duce,Fuhrer,Poglavnik,Caudillo and so on..
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Old 13th October 2005, 21:29
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Re: Get real

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Originally posted by BlueandGold
Sorry Michael,

Your problem is to try and paint the UPA as fascists,


There is no "try", it's a fact - UPA mass-murdered thousands of Polish civilians basing on ethnic criteria, acting out of fascist ethnic hate.

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Please read independent historical sources.

Do you want to tell me that you deny the fact that UPA mass-murdered thousands of Polish civilians basing on ethnic criteria?


Sorry BlueAndGold, but you are a fantasy-oriented person: you prefer the mythological vision of UPA instead of the historical one.



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Old 13th October 2005, 22:00
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Really Mike? Let's start a thread just for you on the UPA, OK?
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Old 13th October 2005, 22:53
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Really Mike? Let's start a thread just for you on the UPA, OK?
Dobko, Petro_Moskal started this thread with a post about UPA's crimes, I do not see why you want to start another one.


BTW, could somebody explain to me why there is so little honesty in Ukrainians in this forum?
Like even when confronted with historical events like mass-murder of civilians, women and children among them, you people seem to have trouble admitting that people who commit mass-murder of civilians are villains, not heroes and you react negatively when somebody is saying this simple truth.
Let me repeat something else: people who mass murder civilians basing on ethnic criteria are hardly not fascists, what UPA did was a classical ethnic cleansing hate-atrocity.

Are you people aware that [in this thread] you are defenders of facists and mass-murderers? Or do you somehow push it out of your moral view?



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