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Old 5th July 2005, 18:14
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Let's say you have partly agreed and I partly agree with you as well
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Old 12th October 2005, 15:38
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I dont see any bad consequence with the Ukrainian nationalist tendencies...One must bear in mind the fact that The Ukrainians had been targeted to be de-nationalized by several nations for centuries.
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Old 12th October 2005, 22:56
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In my opinion, Ukrainian nationalism is criminal and needs to be condemned internationally just as Nazism and Stalinism have been.
So should Russian nationalism! And Polish nationalism, American nationalism, Canadian nationalism.... hell let's ban all nationalism!


I think that the problem is that OUN/UPA ideology is often incorrectly described as "Ukrainian nationalism", while in reality the proper term is "Ukrainian fascism".

To put it simply, people who mass murder civilians because of their ethnicity are hardly only mere 'nationalists'.



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Old 13th October 2005, 07:49
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Cool Get real

Sorry Michael,

Your problem is to try and paint the UPA as fascists,
rather than focus on the REAL enemies of Ukraine...

Socialists and communists from Moscow!

Please read independent historical sources.
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Old 13th October 2005, 10:04
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UPA were fascists.I thought we all made it clear.
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Old 13th October 2005, 14:00
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Really? Why haven't I noticed?
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Old 13th October 2005, 19:55
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no need to notice that white is white and black is black.UPA were fascists and chauvinists.
,,One dead Pole is one more metre of Great Ukraine'' ''Death to the Poles''
these are fascist greetings and phrases of UPA that illustrate how radical UPA was.they fought for free Ukraine.that's true but so what? they were fascists and it doesn't justify them.Ante Pavelic was fighting for free Croatia but was fascist at the same time.
antidemocratic and quasi-mafia conspired structure of OUN proves it as well.
even official title of Stepan Bandera was prowidnyk which means the same as: Duce,Fuhrer,Poglavnik,Caudillo and so on..
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