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[Lvivske]

Mike, what's your point?

Lincoln killed god knows how many and he's an American hero; virtually all heroes who come from a military/politics background have had to get their hands dirty in order to accomplish

[MichaelB_PL]

Originally Posted by Lvivske

Mike, what's your point?

Lincoln killed god knows how many and he's an American hero; virtually all heroes who come from a military/politics background have had to get their hands dirty in order to accomplish

I think it depends on what you define as "getting hands dirty" - some 'heroes' were killing armed opponents and some were conducting massacres of civilians. I think the former is acceptable, but calling murderers of civilians "heroes" is rather disguisting.

[LindaTygenhof]

We must all be vigilant, but not hateful. News must continue to come to the US about the Ukraine. The only way the Russians will keep tolerance at a happy medium is to make sure everyone is educated about their attempts and interests in the Ukraine.
Linda

[LindaTygenhof]

Originally Posted by MichaelB_PL

I think it depends on what you define as "getting hands dirty" - some 'heroes' were killing armed opponents and some were conducting massacres of civilians. I think the former is acceptable, but calling murderers of civilians "heroes" is rather disguisting.

The American Civil War killed both Southerners and Northerners, all Americans. Lincoln was a president who knew what separation would do to this country. The south fired the first shot and thus drew all Americans into a bloody war. I've never heard of Lincoln being called a "hero". He was a President who was very tolerant of all races and hated war. Watch the series "The Civil War" by Ken Burns. It gives you both sides of a war that killed far too many Americans.