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Old 18th December 2004, 21:18
yakym yakym is offline
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Turbin wrote:
All the events you stated are not "Russia's legacy in the Ukraine" but rather a common tragic events in the history of both peoples.


PS I thought WW2 destruction of the Ukraine has something to do with Germany...


Hahah, you used "the Ukraine." You're SOOO well informed.

You really should stop reading Soviet textbooks for your history. YEAH, THE FAMINE REALLY HURT ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN MOSCOW. You know, the unemployed ones they used to resettle Kharkiv after the famine.

I suggest you sit down before you hurt yourself.



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Old 19th December 2004, 15:08
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truby kievan rus founded and controled from kiev.....belarus,kaliningrad,ukraine will be in eu in future...its just how its gonna be..
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Old 20th December 2004, 00:22
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>>>>>YEAH, THE FAMINE REALLY HURT ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN MOSCOW. You know, the unemployed ones they used to resettle Kharkiv after the famine. <<<<<<<<<


yakym, my ancestors were Ukrainian kulaks who were repressed by the Soviet government and lived through the famines (not all them survived).

So please spare me your nationalist foretales. The famines affected all the areas where "kulaks" and other "social enemies" of the commies lived. However, plenty of the Bolsheviks were ethnic Ukrainians (as well as Jews, Latvians, Georgians and Russians) and millions of ethnic Russians (as well as Ukrainians) died fighting the Bolsheviks.
The famines of 1930-33, not only affected the Ukraine but also ethnic Russian areas in Southern Russia, Volga region, southern Siberia, Kazakhstan etc. there millions also died.

PS Most Ukrainians have a valid reason to be anti-Communist (just like many Russians do) but we should not be blinded by the hate towards our Russian brothers...


[Edited by Turbin on 21st December 2004 at 08:01]
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Old 26th December 2004, 04:29
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This may help answer some questions about Russian legacy in the Ukraine and where "Little Russians" came from:




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Originally posted by Turbin
>>>>>YEAH, THE FAMINE REALLY HURT ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN MOSCOW. You know, the unemployed ones they used to resettle Kharkiv after the famine. <<<<<<<<<


yakym, my ancestors were Ukrainian kulaks who were repressed by the Soviet government and lived through the famines (not all them survived).

So please spare me your nationalist foretales. The famines affected all the areas where "kulaks" and other "social enemies" of the commies lived. However, plenty of the Bolsheviks were ethnic Ukrainians (as well as Jews, Latvians, Georgians and Russians) and millions of ethnic Russians (as well as Ukrainians) died fighting the Bolsheviks.
The famines of 1930-33, not only affected the Ukraine but also ethnic Russian areas in Southern Russia, Volga region, southern Siberia, Kazakhstan etc. there millions also died.

PS Most Ukrainians have a valid reason to be anti-Communist (just like many Russians do) but we should not be blinded by the hate towards our Russian brothers...


[Edited by Turbin on 21st December 2004 at 08:01]
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