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[MichaelB_PL]

Originally posted by yakym
let's see some sources, chico. does the term operation vistula mean anything to you?

Operation Vistula: anti-guerilla and minority resettlement operation commited by Polish armed forces around 1947.

It was mainly directed against UPA- Ukrainian fascist guerilla organisation which tried to commit genocide on the Polish civilian population, unfortunately in some areas with success.
The reason for the resettlement of population was that UPA was getting supplies and manpower from the local Ukrainian population and it was decided that cutting this support would cause UPA forces to wither away.
Ukrainian and Lemko population was resettled, mainly to post-German land in the northern and western territories of modern Poland.


Flow of events in Polish-Ukrainian relations:

1. Poles opress Ukrainians, but without resorting to mass murder.
2. Ukrainian UPA guerilla mass murder Polish civilians.
3. Polish AK guerilla mass murder Ukrainian civilians in retribution.
4. Action Vistula resettles Ukrainians,largely ending the conflict from point 2 and 3.


Action Vistula is often perceived as something evil, but this is something tremendously blown out of proportions and not based on facts.
As one can see from the flow of events, action Vistula was actually a step back in terms of brutality, ending the practice of mass murder commited on both sides which the UPA started, replacing it with resettlement, which was certainly something much more humane.
While it was't humane by modern standarts, action Vistula was a step toward normalisation and humanisation of the situation in the region.


Michael

[hating_nation]

Flow of events in Polish-Ukrainian relations:

correction

1. Polish and Ukraine nobles with Jewish tax colectors collect tax on ukraines peasents something that happend all over europe.....if not ukraines and russians give some fact links that says this is not tru..
2.Cossacks in zaporije starts figthing polish-lithuanian citys and armys slaugthering thousands jews,polish and ukraine nobles in ukraine...
3.The new rulers russians makes the cossacks tax collectors in ukraine instead off the polish jews...this we hear nothing off from anti polish ukraines and russians...
2. Ukrainian UPA guerilla mass murder Polish civilians specialy in wolyn in ww2 100.000....
3. Polish AK guerilla mass murder Ukrainian civilians in retribution 25.000....
4.Communist goverements in ukraine and poland exchange population....200.000 Lemkos and Ukes leaves for ukraine...2 million Poles leave for poland...not counting the 2 million poles from ukraine deported to siberia,kazakstan,turkmenistan etc from where 60% dies, this was done by russian goverment also many ukes was deported and died in siberia..
5.After 1945 Action Vistula by comunist goverment resettle lemkos and ukraines who participated in gerilla activety against population in the south-east poland.....

[Zbyszek]

We normally do not share many good historic news in this forum. Now, I am pleased to say that final agreement was signed between municipality of Lviv and Polish authorities, concerning the Lychakov graveyard, where both Polish and Ukrainian independence WWI fighters lie peacefully side by side not knowing about historic storms rampaging over their bodies.
After many years of difficult negotiation rounds, a final (I really hope for it!) agreement was signed and it will hopefully close the issue of official reopening the Polish Military Cemetary in LwСw/Lviv.
I would like to remind that the Soviet authorities vandalized the neighbouring Ukrainian military cementary after WWII whereas it was well kept earlier under Polish administration 1919-1939.

[dobko]

That is good news Zby.

[Zbyszek]

It is happening today. Such an important day for Poles and Ukrainians. The events of 1918 were dramatic but it was fair fight and no side could claim exclusive right to Lwow/Lviv then. National composition of Lwow made us think about Poland while the Ukrainian surrounding suggested its placement in Ukraine.
Most of us do not fully realize that Polish soldiers buried in the neighbourhood of Lychakov graveyard were children in fact, teenagers. Their parents were far from Lwow fighting for free Poland.
The reopening of the burial site after dark times of communism when the graves were desecrated has deeply symbolic meaning.